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Rod 27-03-2004 08:17 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:22:41 +0000, Peter Crosland wrote:


Very sound advice indeed. BTW can anyone tell me why nothing seems to eat
the Golden Hornet fruit? Mine just sit there and eventually shrivel away.


We haven't had any very cold weather just after Christmas in recent years.
When we do get that cold snap the fruits 'blet' they go soggy nad probably
also get a bit sweeter. We then get the tree cleared out in a few days by
various thrushes, blackbirds etc - the local ones and Fieldfares +
Redwings.

Rod

Rosie 27-03-2004 08:17 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
Rod wrote about the amelanchier:

Nice one - well drained acid soil needed with preferably a bit of shelter
from cold winds.


Now you mention it, I have kind of compacted soil which gets pretty wet as
my water butt near it is always leaking.

Shame because I liked that idea!

ROSIE



Rosie 27-03-2004 08:17 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
Rod wrote about the amelanchier:

Nice one - well drained acid soil needed with preferably a bit of shelter
from cold winds.


Now you mention it, I have kind of compacted soil which gets pretty wet as
my water butt near it is always leaking.

Shame because I liked that idea!

ROSIE



Rosie 27-03-2004 08:17 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
Rod wrote about the amelanchier:

Nice one - well drained acid soil needed with preferably a bit of shelter
from cold winds.


Now you mention it, I have kind of compacted soil which gets pretty wet as
my water butt near it is always leaking.

Shame because I liked that idea!

ROSIE



Jaques d'Alltrades 27-03-2004 08:18 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
The message
from "Rosie" contains these words:

I am looking for a small tree (up to 20ft) to plant about 10 ft away from my
conservatory.


Obviously I would like it to be fast-growing because I am impatient. :)


Ideally I would like something native. Any suggestions?


Try winter-flowering viburnum - small tree - may not even grow to 20
feet, has small clusters of strongly-scented pink flowers through the
winter months

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Rod 27-03-2004 08:18 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 09:11:11 -0000, "Rosie" wrote:

I am looking for a small tree (up to 20ft) to plant about 10 ft away from my
conservatory.

Obviously I would like it to be fast-growing because I am impatient. :)

Ideally I would like something native. Any suggestions?

ROSIE
(Somerset)

Try something like Malus (Crab Apple) 'Golden Hornet' Compact,
upright, relatively trouble free. Choose a plant on a rootstock
suitable for your situation. On a semi dwarfing rootstock it won't
grow very quickly but it will flower and fruit at a young age and
won't outgrow its space. A sweet cherry on a dwarfing rootstock -
flowers fruit for you, or more likely the birds + autumn colour.
Prunus incisa 'Pendula', a little gem of a weeping tree - it will
never get very big, we've not had ours long enough to tell for sure
but it's looking like many years to exceed 10ft, an absolutely perfect
miniature for a small garden; flowering now and good autumn colour.
Conifers? Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Ellwood's Gold' very slow tight
neat upright form with pale yellowish green foliage, again many years
to exceed 10ft but unlikely to outgrow its space - don't be fobbed off
with other forms of C. lawsoniana without checking tho' because some
of them grow as big and as fast as Leylandii. These are all easy and
not too picky about soil.
Some Maples might suit but need careful siting - like protection from
cold winds, humus rich reliably moist but well drained slightly acid
soil - that gardeners' dream about as common as hens teeth.

Rod

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http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

Peter Crosland 27-03-2004 08:18 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 

Try something like Malus (Crab Apple) 'Golden Hornet' Compact,
upright, relatively trouble free. Choose a plant on a rootstock
suitable for your situation. On a semi dwarfing rootstock it won't
grow very quickly but it will flower and fruit at a young age and
won't outgrow its space. A sweet cherry on a dwarfing rootstock -
flowers fruit for you, or more likely the birds + autumn colour.
Prunus incisa 'Pendula', a little gem of a weeping tree - it will
never get very big, we've not had ours long enough to tell for sure
but it's looking like many years to exceed 10ft, an absolutely perfect
miniature for a small garden; flowering now and good autumn colour.
Conifers? Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Ellwood's Gold' very slow tight
neat upright form with pale yellowish green foliage, again many years
to exceed 10ft but unlikely to outgrow its space - don't be fobbed off
with other forms of C. lawsoniana without checking tho' because some
of them grow as big and as fast as Leylandii. These are all easy and
not too picky about soil.
Some Maples might suit but need careful siting - like protection from
cold winds, humus rich reliably moist but well drained slightly acid
soil - that gardeners' dream about as common as hens teeth.


Very sound advice indeed. BTW can anyone tell me why nothing seems to eat
the Golden Hornet fruit? Mine just sit there and eventually shrivel away.



David Hill 27-03-2004 08:18 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
There are several of the long leafed Cotoneaster that can be grown as small
trees and which will grow to 15 ft or so, these will give you spring flower
and Autumn/winter berry. and will provide dappled shade for the conservatory

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk





Robert 27-03-2004 08:19 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 

"Rosie" wrote in message
...
: I am looking for a small tree (up to 20ft) to plant about 10 ft away from
my
: conservatory.
:
: Obviously I would like it to be fast-growing because I am impatient. :)
:
: Ideally I would like something native. Any suggestions?
:
: ROSIE
: (Somerset)
:
:
http://www.hcs.ohio-state.edu/hcs/TM...elanchier.html



Rod 27-03-2004 08:19 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:05:52 +0000, Robert wrote:


http://www.hcs.ohio-state.edu/hcs/TM...elanchier.html


Nice one - well drained acid soil needed with preferably a bit of shelter
from cold winds.

Rod 27-03-2004 08:19 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 15:22:41 +0000, Peter Crosland wrote:


Very sound advice indeed. BTW can anyone tell me why nothing seems to eat
the Golden Hornet fruit? Mine just sit there and eventually shrivel away.


We haven't had any very cold weather just after Christmas in recent years.
When we do get that cold snap the fruits 'blet' they go soggy nad probably
also get a bit sweeter. We then get the tree cleared out in a few days by
various thrushes, blackbirds etc - the local ones and Fieldfares +
Redwings.

Rod

Rosie 27-03-2004 08:19 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
Rod wrote about the amelanchier:

Nice one - well drained acid soil needed with preferably a bit of shelter
from cold winds.


Now you mention it, I have kind of compacted soil which gets pretty wet as
my water butt near it is always leaking.

Shame because I liked that idea!

ROSIE



Emery Davis 27-03-2004 11:36 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:12:47 -0000, "Rosie" said:

] Rod wrote about the amelanchier:
]
] Nice one - well drained acid soil needed with preferably a bit of shelter
] from cold winds.
]
] Now you mention it, I have kind of compacted soil which gets pretty wet as
] my water butt near it is always leaking.
]
] Shame because I liked that idea!
]


I think they're pretty tolerant. Oddly the RHS ('89) plant guide has them liking
wet conditions...

Here's my question: anyone have a recipe for anything using service berries?
I know they're edible, but what can you _do_ with them??

TIA!

-E
--
Emery Davis
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Jaques d'Alltrades 27-03-2004 11:44 PM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 
The message
from "Peter Crosland" contains these words:

Very sound advice indeed. BTW can anyone tell me why nothing seems to eat
the Golden Hornet fruit? Mine just sit there and eventually shrivel away.


Probably expecting it to turn red - and waiting........

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

andrewpreece 28-03-2004 12:34 AM

Fast growing SMALL tree?
 

"Rosie" wrote in message
...
I am looking for a small tree (up to 20ft) to plant about 10 ft away from

my
conservatory.

Obviously I would like it to be fast-growing because I am impatient. :)

Ideally I would like something native. Any suggestions?

ROSIE
(Somerset)



Rowan? Might get a little taller than 20ft though.

Andy




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