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Philip 02-04-2004 12:42 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
Hi

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with the seeds of this plant.

I checked out a Thompson & Morgan site and it said "Germination -
challenging", and gave a set of steps to take to achieve success.

http://seeds.thompson-morgan.com/us/...2710/1?SA=1383

Other sources of information, that I cannot trace right now, recommend
a far less strenuous approach.

Ah! Heres one http://vandusen.plantexplorers.com/p...roducts_id/146

I would be interested to hear of the experiences of others

Phil

Rod 06-04-2004 09:39 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
On 2 Apr 2004 03:40:48 -0800, (Philip) wrote:

Hi

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with the seeds of this plant.

I checked out a Thompson & Morgan site and it said "Germination -
challenging", and gave a set of steps to take to achieve success.

http://seeds.thompson-morgan.com/us/...2710/1?SA=1383

Other sources of information, that I cannot trace right now, recommend
a far less strenuous approach.

Ah! Heres one http://vandusen.plantexplorers.com/p...roducts_id/146

I would be interested to hear of the experiences of others

Phil

Waste of time, don't bother with 'em - send 'em here let me deal with
them ;~]
http://www.backyardgardener.com/tm.html
This is the text of the book T&M used to publish - fairly reliable. I
don't recall any particular problem getting them germinated, now
getting them to flowering size........that's another story.


Rod

Weed my email address to reply
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

Rod 06-04-2004 09:40 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
On 2 Apr 2004 03:40:48 -0800, (Philip) wrote:

Hi

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with the seeds of this plant.

I checked out a Thompson & Morgan site and it said "Germination -
challenging", and gave a set of steps to take to achieve success.

http://seeds.thompson-morgan.com/us/...2710/1?SA=1383

Other sources of information, that I cannot trace right now, recommend
a far less strenuous approach.

Ah! Heres one http://vandusen.plantexplorers.com/p...roducts_id/146

I would be interested to hear of the experiences of others

Phil

Waste of time, don't bother with 'em - send 'em here let me deal with
them ;~]
http://www.backyardgardener.com/tm.html
This is the text of the book T&M used to publish - fairly reliable. I
don't recall any particular problem getting them germinated, now
getting them to flowering size........that's another story.


Rod

Weed my email address to reply
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

Rodger Whitlock 06-04-2004 09:40 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
On 2 Apr 2004 03:40:48 -0800, Philip wrote:

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with the seeds of this plant.

I checked out a Thompson & Morgan site and it said "Germination -
challenging", and gave a set of steps to take to achieve success.

http://seeds.thompson-morgan.com/us/...2710/1?SA=1383

Other sources of information, that I cannot trace right now, recommend
a far less strenuous approach.


Sounds like T&M's advice is of the "make it grow" kind, rather
than "let it grow". I'm prejudiced against the former.

I would be interested to hear of the experiences of others


In my experience, cardiocrinum is as easy as any other plant to
grow from seed. The real difficulty is that it takes years before
they flower.

Sow the seed in good soil and cover with fine gravel or coarse
grit. Water well, and keep in a shaded coldframe. Germination
will take place next spring; the seedlings look like those of
onions. Leave them in the pot undisturbed for another year or
two.

Pot on or prick out when dormant, not when in full growth. The
roots of many monocots will not branch if the tips are damaged,
so you want to avoid root disturbance when the plants are in
active growth.

If you have a nursery bed area, I suggest pricking out the
dormant bulbs the second fall after germination. The sooner you
get the seedling bulbs into the ground, the sooner they will
reach maturity and flower. To prevent diseases, set the bulbs on
a bed of sand when you prick them out, and cover with more sand.





--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Rodger Whitlock 06-04-2004 09:40 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
On 2 Apr 2004 03:40:48 -0800, Philip wrote:

Does anyone have any tips for dealing with the seeds of this plant.

I checked out a Thompson & Morgan site and it said "Germination -
challenging", and gave a set of steps to take to achieve success.

http://seeds.thompson-morgan.com/us/...2710/1?SA=1383

Other sources of information, that I cannot trace right now, recommend
a far less strenuous approach.


Sounds like T&M's advice is of the "make it grow" kind, rather
than "let it grow". I'm prejudiced against the former.

I would be interested to hear of the experiences of others


In my experience, cardiocrinum is as easy as any other plant to
grow from seed. The real difficulty is that it takes years before
they flower.

Sow the seed in good soil and cover with fine gravel or coarse
grit. Water well, and keep in a shaded coldframe. Germination
will take place next spring; the seedlings look like those of
onions. Leave them in the pot undisturbed for another year or
two.

Pot on or prick out when dormant, not when in full growth. The
roots of many monocots will not branch if the tips are damaged,
so you want to avoid root disturbance when the plants are in
active growth.

If you have a nursery bed area, I suggest pricking out the
dormant bulbs the second fall after germination. The sooner you
get the seedling bulbs into the ground, the sooner they will
reach maturity and flower. To prevent diseases, set the bulbs on
a bed of sand when you prick them out, and cover with more sand.





--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Rod 06-04-2004 09:41 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 20:30:49 GMT, lid
(Rodger Whitlock) wrote:


Sounds like T&M's advice is of the "make it grow" kind, rather
than "let it grow". I'm prejudiced against the former.

Yes, that's my feeling about their advice. It's something I go to if
everything else has failed. My normal approach of trying to create the
conditions that the plant would experience in it's natural habitat
works for most things if the seeds haven't been mis-treated in some
way. (Still got your Erythonium and Trillium plants Rodger - coming
along nicely)

Rod

Weed my email address to reply
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

Rod 06-04-2004 09:41 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 20:30:49 GMT, lid
(Rodger Whitlock) wrote:


Sounds like T&M's advice is of the "make it grow" kind, rather
than "let it grow". I'm prejudiced against the former.

Yes, that's my feeling about their advice. It's something I go to if
everything else has failed. My normal approach of trying to create the
conditions that the plant would experience in it's natural habitat
works for most things if the seeds haven't been mis-treated in some
way. (Still got your Erythonium and Trillium plants Rodger - coming
along nicely)

Rod

Weed my email address to reply
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

Philip 06-04-2004 09:45 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
Many thanks to you both Rod and Rodger. When my Cardiocrium flowers and
sets seed I will remember you both.



Philip 06-04-2004 09:45 PM

Cardiocrinum giganteum
 
Many thanks to you both Rod and Rodger. When my Cardiocrium flowers and
sets seed I will remember you both.




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