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Jim Voege8/4/04 10:54
"Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... Jim Voege8/4/04 8:38 "Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... snip It's another world, a magic, a revelation. And all our plants are still there next morning, in the *day*light. Different preferences in "magic" ... Jim And a total loss of the *real* thing to the artificial. Big shame, IMO. -- I have gained a garden at night. What have I lost? Jim The real thing. But if you turn off your telly, turn out your house lights and illuminate your garden, sitting at a window to enjoy it, then that's your business. -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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Bella9/4/04 7:47
"Jane Ransom" wrote in message ... BTW in the uk when the temperature reaches a sufficient level to have a bbq outside, it stays light until it is too cool to be outside any more!!! There is no such thing as too cold to BBQ... -- I found a hailstorm, in Jersey, in April gave the lie to that for me. ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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In article , Jim Voege
writes You folks in the UK should understand that you live quite a bit further north than most North Americans and during the summer it stays light longer. In many places in August, for example, after you get home from work, have dinner etc, you're running out of light. So why did you post your post to a uk group? -- Jane Ransom in Lancaster. I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see |
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Bella wrote:
There is no such thing as too cold to BBQ... But who wants to stand over a hot fire on a cold day? -- Warren H. ========== Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to go outside now. Blatant Plug: Spend your Amazon gift certificates he http://www.holzemville.com/mall/associateshop.html |
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"Jane Ransom" wrote in message ... In article , Jim Voege writes You folks in the UK should understand that you live quite a bit further north than most North Americans and during the summer it stays light longer. In many places in August, for example, after you get home from work, have dinner etc, you're running out of light. So why did you post your post to a uk group? Actually, I'm at rec.gardens and when I replied to the original post at the beginning of the thread I hadn't noticed that it was posted to both groups. Jim |
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"JennyC" wrote:
Yeah but by the time the weather is conducive to BbQing its light until very late and a few candles are far more romantic "Bella" wrote: There is no such thing as too cold to BBQ... "Sue da Nimm" . wrote: Wow! I can save a fortune on charcoal and firelighters if that's true! We still use a fire, but we brush the ice and snow off the grill before we start. Sometimes we take the food indoors to eat, unless we have a neighbor that gets up tight about outdoor light. Then we brush the ice and snow off the picnic table and eat there so we don't have the indoor lights shining out the windows of the house upsetting our neighbor. Sometimes we even take the Scouts camping in the middle of winter and eat and sleep under the stars. |
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"..... But who wants to stand over a hot fire on a cold day?....."
Some people like toasted nuts..... -- David Hill Abacus nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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Xref: kermit rec.gardens:271141 uk.rec.gardening:195427
In article , Jim Voege writes So why did you post your post to a uk group? Actually, I'm at rec.gardens and when I replied to the original post at the beginning of the thread I hadn't noticed that it was posted to both groups. I also have to confess . . . I didn't notice the cross post either )) -- Jane Ransom in Lancaster. I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see |
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"Jane Ransom" wrote in message ... In article , Jim Voege writes So why did you post your post to a uk group? Actually, I'm at rec.gardens and when I replied to the original post at the beginning of the thread I hadn't noticed that it was posted to both groups. I also have to confess . . . I didn't notice the cross post either )) -- Hehe. I guess in mid-summer you guys have to stay up pretty late to enjoy those stars. Jim |
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In article , Jim Voege
writes Hehe. I guess in mid-summer you guys have to stay up pretty late to enjoy those stars. In Scotland you hardly have time at all -- Jane Ransom in Lancaster. I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see |
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The message
from "Bella" contains these words: "Jane Ransom" wrote in message ... BTW in the uk when the temperature reaches a sufficient level to have a bbq outside, it stays light until it is too cool to be outside any more!!! There is no such thing as too cold to BBQ... I suspect you haven't been to Scotland in summer. I love a winter picnic in snow round a large fire on which we cook. However a cool damp still summer day/night barbecue when midges are active, the air reeks of toxic midge repellents, and putting on your fleece jacket/midge net hat makes the host go all huffy and sniffy, is my idea of hell :-( Janet |
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The message
from "David Hill" contains these words: "..... But who wants to stand over a hot fire on a cold day?....." Some people like toasted nuts..... Some people are toasted nuts.... Janet |
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"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
... In article , Jim Voege writes Hehe. I guess in mid-summer you guys have to stay up pretty late to enjoy those stars. In Scotland you hardly have time at all Hehe. I know what you mean. Some of my countrymen who live way, way up have literally no time at all. Interesting growing season up there. So short. But so intense. Jim |
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"Sacha" wrote in message
o.uk... Look, I'm really sorry to rain on anyone's parade but perhaps you might ask yourselves if you really *want* garden lighting? Yes! Why? What will you do with it? Have trendy garden parties at night with all our friends! Will you actually sit at the window and turn off the telly and look out at our night-illuminated garden? Maybe if it looks nice This country has (IIRC) the highest light pollution in the world proportionately speaking. I can understand garden lighting when you're using a deck or terrace for a party but to light plants at night? WHY? Can't you look at them in the day time? If you live in the boondocks and need to light the path to the house - maybe install something that comes on as you approach it and goes off rapidly as you enter the house. So - FWIW, you may want to consider less light pollution and more sitting outside in the soft darkness of a summer's night looking at the *stars* which will not have been blanked out by a something-or-other lighting your Skimmia or bamboo and all those of all your neighbours. Just a teensy thought.... Doesn't really matter to me, we live in a town, we have street lights already, I don't think 5 or 6 low voltage lights are going to harm anyone! A newcomer to this village tried to get street lighting installed once - not a shrewd move. I think he moved quite soon after that. ;-) Good on him for trying. Last area I lived in had street lights installed and burglary, assult and car theft fell by over 75%! To many people are stuck in the *dark ages* on things like this, only seeing the negatives, and not the benefits! Would you rather see the stars, or be safe walking at nights! Sure, it would be great to be able to do both, but thats not the world we live in is it! On many winter and summer nights we go outside to look at the stars and even with the very faint loom of Torquay some miles away we can actually *see* them. It's another world, a magic, a revelation. And all our plants are still there next morning, in the *day*light. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) Ben Swindon |
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"Stephen M. Henning" wrote in message news Apparently you aren't familiar with the tradition of barbecue (bar-BQ). It is where you cook outdoors on a grill (charcoal or propane) and eat outdoors. If the host has a nice garden, the bar-BQ may be held in or next to the garden. If the function lasts after sundown, outdoor lighting is needed. Frequently it includes tiki torches with citronella laced fuel to keep the insects down. Indeedy! I want to throw trendy parties with our friends, BBQ, cocktails etc. Its my fiancee 21st soon, and I plan to have the garden sorted so we can have a big bash for her! Ben |
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