I bought some trellis today to put on a wooden fence so that sweetpeas
have something to scramble up. This means that I have to dig up the
clematis tangutica I planted in that place two years ago. I do this
with regret because it is a truly lovely plant and suits the soil
around here (slightly alkaline clay/loam), but it is far too large
_because_ it is too large. Anyway, I digress.

What is the best way to fix a trellis to a wooden fence? The trellis
is not great quality, because I wanted to try this first for a couple
of years before putting better quality trellises in. It is one of
those expandable thingies, about a fiver, from a GC.

I think the wood on the fence is quite hard: I can put panel pins in,
or put screws in. Should I drill holes for the screws first?

Secondly, I have another, similarly tacky trellis, to replace a
smaller trellis on my front, up which another, less energetic clematis
hybrid is scrambling. This has to be connected to brick. What is the
best way to go about this?

I'm really a diy beginner. I'm _always_ a beginner. I have this
ability to retain the slightest trivia about plants, but have no
confidence, and therefore, no retention, in the sphere of hardware
knowledge. So just assume that the most basic of explanations will
help. I do have tools. I just don't know how to use them.

TIA.

Glenys

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"MissJuggs" wrote in message
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I bought some trellis today to put on a wooden fence

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You will need a gap say, of half an inch between trellis and fence. To
achieve this, you will need to screw 2 vertical battens (strips of wood) to
the fence and then screw the trellis to the battens. If you trellis opens up
to 4 foot wide by 5 foot high, your battens would each measure half inch by
one inch by 5 foot.

I think the wood on the fence is quite hard: I can put panel pins in,
or put screws in. Should I drill holes for the screws first?

Use screws, 3 per batten and drill first. If you're unsure as to what size
drill to use, then test drill and screw in some scrap wood.

Secondly, snip
This has to be connected to brick.

Similar method as per wooden fence, but to fix the batten to the brickwork,
you will need a hammer-drill and some 'rawlplugs' to fix the screws into the
brick. I would suggest you tackle the wooden fence yourself, but you will
need to get help with the brick project - it's quite tricky and you could do
a lot of damage.

Pete

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from MissJuggs contains these words:

I bought some trellis today to put on a wooden fence so that sweetpeas
have something to scramble up. This means that I have to dig up the
clematis tangutica I planted in that place two years ago. I do this
with regret because it is a truly lovely plant and suits the soil
around here (slightly alkaline clay/loam), but it is far too large
_because_ it is too large. Anyway, I digress.

Ah. I *LIKE* digressions.

What is the best way to fix a trellis to a wooden fence? The trellis
is not great quality, because I wanted to try this first for a couple
of years before putting better quality trellises in. It is one of
those expandable thingies, about a fiver, from a GC.

Molish some bent wire hookses. Adjust the hight of your trelli
accordionly and hang it on the hookses from the top of the fence.

You don't want the trelli too close to the fence. (IMO)

I think the wood on the fence is quite hard: I can put panel pins in,
or put screws in. Should I drill holes for the screws first?

You can do either, but if you are going to fix it that way I'd drill
one-eighth holes - or two mm - in your trelli and the fence, and secure
with No. 8 screwses.

Secondly, I have another, similarly tacky trellis, to replace a
smaller trellis on my front, up which another, less energetic clematis
hybrid is scrambling. This has to be connected to brick. What is the
best way to go about this?

Hmmm. You have a brick front with a sluggish clematis scrambling up it?
Might I suggest a visit to M&S to get some slightly less rigid support
(this is The Red Macgregor speaking. Hic!) before you attempt to attach
a trelli or trellis.

Trellis tend to nip rather like scissors if you aren't careful, so it is
best to go for a lightly armoured bust bodice molished out of something
resistant to shear stresses. Kevlar is a good option, as it is also
resistant to artillery up to quite a fair calibre.

Attach with grapnels or Sticky Fixers. On no account use Elastoplast or
drawing-pins.

I'm really a diy beginner. I'm _always_ a beginner. I have this
ability to retain the slightest trivia about plants, but have no
confidence, and therefore, no retention, in the sphere of hardware
knowledge. So just assume that the most basic of explanations will
help. I do have tools. I just don't know how to use them.

I have a feeling that I should have given you more detailed destructions.

TIA.

My pleasure.

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On Sun, 2 May 2004 02:06:25 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

I have a feeling that I should have given you more detailed destructions.

puts head in hands

Glenys

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On Sat, 1 May 2004 23:51:34 +0100, "Cumberpach"
wrote:

You will need a gap say, of half an inch between trellis and fence. To
achieve this, you will need to screw 2 vertical battens (strips of wood) to
the fence and then screw the trellis to the battens. If you trellis opens up
to 4 foot wide by 5 foot high, your battens would each measure half inch by
one inch by 5 foot.

Ah. I've got the back of the fence, so I was rather thinking about
attaching the trellis to the fence supports, so it stood out.

battens, eh? I know what they are. Any bets on B&Q being open today?

Glenys

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On Sun, 02 May 2004 09:20:59 +0100, MissJuggs
wrote:

On Sun, 2 May 2004 02:06:25 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

I have a feeling that I should have given you more detailed destructions.

puts head in hands

looks at broken sig. and takes one step backwards


Glenys

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On Sun, 02 May 2004 11:01:11 +0200, martin wrote:

I have a feeling that I should have given you more detailed destructions.

puts head in hands

looks at broken sig. and takes one step backwards

*laughs*.

Glenys

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"MissJuggs" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 May 2004 23:51:34 +0100, "Cumberpach"
wrote:

You will need a gap say, of half an inch between trellis and fence. To
achieve this, you will need to screw 2 vertical battens (strips of wood)
to
the fence and then screw the trellis to the battens. If you trellis opens
up
to 4 foot wide by 5 foot high, your battens would each measure half inch
by
one inch by 5 foot.

Ah. I've got the back of the fence, so I was rather thinking about
attaching the trellis to the fence supports, so it stood out.

battens, eh? I know what they are. Any bets on B&Q being open today?

They are open every Sunday here in Scotland

On Sun, 2 May 2004 10:28:21 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote:

battens, eh? I know what they are. Any bets on B&Q being open today?

They are open every Sunday here in Scotland

I got caught out by this on Easter Sunday, thobut. Twas the day of
the Vine Weevil Panic, and I couldn't find any of the sheds, whether
garden related or DIY masochism related, open, as they were all
deferring the retail experience until bank holiday Monday. Easter
Sunday is a bit, special though, you don't get chocolate eggsies every
day of the year. Or, you do, but they're not the same. Short
attention span? What's an attention ... oh, look, a lovely puppy.

Glenys

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On Sun, 2 May 2004 02:06:25 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

I have a feeling that I should have given you more detailed destructions.

I eventually molished it with screws, size 8, and an electric
screwdriver. This caused some splitting of the wood of the trellis,
but it is firmly fixed.

Unfortunately, the purchase of a variety of molishing emollients
necessitated a visit to a B&Q, something I should never do while
within driving distance of a credit card. In this photo, you may
peruse the finished trellis, from a distance where the wood splitting
is invisible, a number of hastily planted sweet pea, (I cannot for the
life of me remember their latin name, and no, I am not going to
google), and a hastily purchased piece of tqt:

http://mysite.freeserve.com/juggzy/molishedtrellis.jpg

Glenys

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from MissJuggs contains these words:
On Sun, 02 May 2004 11:01:11 +0200, martin wrote:

I have a feeling that I should have given you more detailed destructions.

puts head in hands

looks at broken sig. and takes one step backwards

*laughs*.

Glenys

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Semen is an anti-depressant.

Still borked thobut.

Try introducing a space after the two syphons.

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On Sun, 2 May 2004 20:36:45 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

Still borked thobut.

Try introducing a space after the two syphons.

Well, you know, that would require a tuit.

Glenys

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On Sun, 02 May 2004 21:48:25 +0100, MissJuggs
wrote:

On Sun, 2 May 2004 20:36:45 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

Still borked thobut.

Try introducing a space after the two syphons.

Well, you know, that would require a tuit.

Glenys

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Semen is an anti-depressant.

Your sig. is still broken and the fleet is in port again.

On Mon, 03 May 2004 01:11:02 +0200, martin wrote:

Semen is an anti-depressant.

Your sig. is still broken and the fleet is in port again.

Well, you know, why don't you killfile me if you don't like me sig?

Glenys

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In message , MissJuggs
writes
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heh, your sig sep worked a few moments ago in
but now doesn't again

Semen is an anti-depressant.

who for, men or women?

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