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Mike 03-05-2004 11:04 AM

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We have a near neighbour who did work with his father, in Garden
Maintenance. He has thought of starting up again, but is at present working
in a factory. Another neighbour did 'use him' to trim a hedge. We would now
like him to do the same for us, which he said he would do and 'it doesn't
matter about paying me, I will do it for you'

I would like to give him at least the going rate, especially as he is going
to start on his own at some time or other. The job involves dropping the
height of a 12 ft high Hawthorn Hedge to about 7 ft over a length of about
20 - 25ft.

I would hate to embarrass him.

Your comments please

Mike
--
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th
Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June
British Pacific Fleet Reunion Birmingham September 17th - 20th



Sacha 03-05-2004 11:04 AM

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Mike3/5/04 10:13
We have a near neighbour who did work with his father, in Garden
Maintenance. He has thought of starting up again, but is at present working
in a factory. Another neighbour did 'use him' to trim a hedge. We would now
like him to do the same for us, which he said he would do and 'it doesn't
matter about paying me, I will do it for you'

I would like to give him at least the going rate, especially as he is going
to start on his own at some time or other. The job involves dropping the
height of a 12 ft high Hawthorn Hedge to about 7 ft over a length of about
20 - 25ft.

I would hate to embarrass him.


What is the usual hourly rate for skilled or semi-skilled work in your area?
Perhaps you could ask the local labour exchange or whatever it's called now!
I think that's the only way you can assess it fairly. Here in Devon, it's
quite low for un-skilled at around £5.00 per hour. But our builder charges
about £14.00 per hour, I think.

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Mike 03-05-2004 12:07 PM

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I would hate to embarrass him.


What is the usual hourly rate for skilled or semi-skilled work in your

area?
Perhaps you could ask the local labour exchange or whatever it's called

now!
I think that's the only way you can assess it fairly. Here in Devon, it's
quite low for un-skilled at around £5.00 per hour. But our builder

charges
about £14.00 per hour, I think.


Thanks for that Sacha. The problem is 'a going rate', if I assess that on my
rate when I was working, £25.00 - £30.00 and hour, then 'I' wouldn't do it
for £5.00 an hour, but he might be embarrassed if I offered him £20.00 per
hour. We all get on ever so well around here, doing what we can when we can
for each other.

Mike



Tumbleweed 03-05-2004 12:07 PM

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"Mike" wrote in message
...


I would hate to embarrass him.


What is the usual hourly rate for skilled or semi-skilled work in your

area?
Perhaps you could ask the local labour exchange or whatever it's called

now!
I think that's the only way you can assess it fairly. Here in Devon,

it's
quite low for un-skilled at around £5.00 per hour. But our builder

charges
about £14.00 per hour, I think.


Thanks for that Sacha. The problem is 'a going rate', if I assess that on

my
rate when I was working, £25.00 - £30.00 and hour, then 'I' wouldn't do it
for £5.00 an hour, but he might be embarrassed if I offered him £20.00 per
hour. We all get on ever so well around here, doing what we can when we

can
for each other.

Mike


Dont underestimate the time and possibly expense involved in removing the
trimmings, unless you plan to have a pretty big bonfire.

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address



shazzbat 03-05-2004 01:05 PM

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"Mike" wrote in message
...


I would hate to embarrass him.


What is the usual hourly rate for skilled or semi-skilled work in your

area?
Perhaps you could ask the local labour exchange or whatever it's called

now!
I think that's the only way you can assess it fairly. Here in Devon,

it's
quite low for un-skilled at around £5.00 per hour. But our builder

charges
about £14.00 per hour, I think.


Thanks for that Sacha. The problem is 'a going rate', if I assess that on

my
rate when I was working, £25.00 - £30.00 and hour, then 'I' wouldn't do it
for £5.00 an hour, but he might be embarrassed if I offered him £20.00 per
hour.


Then logic would suggest £10.00/hr, no? I believe that's about what jobbing
gardeners charge round here. More if it's heavy duty stuff involving
machinery.

We all get on ever so well around here, doing what we can when we can
for each other.


And long may you do so.

Steve



Harry Ziman 03-05-2004 01:05 PM

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About £15.00 per hour assuming he provides all his own equipment etc and has
the appropriate tools for the job so it is done efficiently.

"Mike" wrote in message
...
We have a near neighbour who did work with his father, in Garden
Maintenance. He has thought of starting up again, but is at present

working
in a factory. Another neighbour did 'use him' to trim a hedge. We would

now
like him to do the same for us, which he said he would do and 'it doesn't
matter about paying me, I will do it for you'

I would like to give him at least the going rate, especially as he is

going
to start on his own at some time or other. The job involves dropping the
height of a 12 ft high Hawthorn Hedge to about 7 ft over a length of about
20 - 25ft.

I would hate to embarrass him.

Your comments please

Mike
--
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th
Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June
British Pacific Fleet Reunion Birmingham September 17th - 20th





Sacha 03-05-2004 01:06 PM

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shazzbat3/5/04 11:48


"Mike" wrote in message
...


I would hate to embarrass him.

What is the usual hourly rate for skilled or semi-skilled work in your

area?
Perhaps you could ask the local labour exchange or whatever it's called

now!
I think that's the only way you can assess it fairly. Here in Devon,

it's
quite low for un-skilled at around £5.00 per hour. But our builder

charges
about £14.00 per hour, I think.


Thanks for that Sacha. The problem is 'a going rate', if I assess that on

my
rate when I was working, £25.00 - £30.00 and hour, then 'I' wouldn't do it
for £5.00 an hour, but he might be embarrassed if I offered him £20.00 per
hour.


Then logic would suggest £10.00/hr, no? I believe that's about what jobbing
gardeners charge round here. More if it's heavy duty stuff involving
machinery.

We all get on ever so well around here, doing what we can when we can
for each other.


And long may you do so.


I should have thought of this earlier. We have a chap in the village who
does odd job type gardening so I've just rung him. He charges £10.00 per
hour. If he has to use his own lawn mower or hedge cutter he charges for
petrol. In this part of Devon £10 for that sort of work is high-ish but if
the IoW is more prosperous, it's probably fair.
The chap who does our lawns (4 of differing sizes) is helped by his step
mother usually and it probably takes them a couple of hours. His last
invoice was £35.00. I doubt they split it down the middle because he
provides the machinery and does the heavier work. So working on these two
men and the fact that one has an assistant, I reckon that £10 or £12 is
probably fair.
However, literally as I was typing the above, David Poole wandered past the
window and I've asked his advice on this. He reckons for someone with
machinery and experience £10 is about right - for e.g. a student around
£5.50 to £6.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)



Mike 03-05-2004 02:04 PM

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Dont underestimate the time and possibly expense involved in removing the
trimmings, unless you plan to have a pretty big bonfire.

No I have not underestimated that :-{{

We intend cutting them down smaller, into bags and up the dump :-((

Long prickly job :-((

Unable to have a bonfire, no room!!

Mike--
(I have to go to Eastbourne next weekend, good time for Steve to come over
and Joan can help him chop the bits smaller and into the bag :-)) Her
garden;-)

Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th
Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June
British Pacific Fleet Reunion Birmingham September 17th - 20th



Mike 03-05-2004 03:09 PM

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I should have thought of this earlier. We have a chap in the village who
does odd job type gardening so I've just rung him. He charges £10.00 per
hour. If he has to use his own lawn mower or hedge cutter he charges for
petrol. In this part of Devon £10 for that sort of work is high-ish but

if
the IoW is more prosperous, it's probably fair.
The chap who does our lawns (4 of differing sizes) is helped by his step
mother usually and it probably takes them a couple of hours. His last
invoice was £35.00. I doubt they split it down the middle because he
provides the machinery and does the heavier work. So working on these two
men and the fact that one has an assistant, I reckon that £10 or £12 is
probably fair.
However, literally as I was typing the above, David Poole wandered past

the
window and I've asked his advice on this. He reckons for someone with
machinery and experience £10 is about right - for e.g. a student around
£5.50 to £6.
--


No he is not a student but I think that following all of the advice given,
we will make it £10.00 min plus a cup of tea, or two or three :-))

And Ribena or Orange juice for the children if they come over as well ;-))

This is the couple, who a few months after moving in, had their house
flooded to above skirting board level. The children were paddling around in
their socks!!

(Long long long story, but it was the 4th time the pair of houses had been
flooded in the 16 years we have been here :-((

many thanks all

Mike

--
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th
Nat.Service (RAF) Assoc. Cosford Parade / Social Weekend 25th - 28th June
British Pacific Fleet Reunion Birmingham September 17th - 20th




Sue da Nimm 03-05-2004 03:09 PM

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"Mike" wrote in message
...
We have a near neighbour who did work with his father, in Garden
Maintenance. He has thought of starting up again, but is at present

working
in a factory. Another neighbour did 'use him' to trim a hedge. We would

now
like him to do the same for us, which he said he would do and 'it doesn't
matter about paying me, I will do it for you'

I would like to give him at least the going rate, especially as he is

going
to start on his own at some time or other. The job involves dropping the
height of a 12 ft high Hawthorn Hedge to about 7 ft over a length of about
20 - 25ft.

I would hate to embarrass him.

Your comments please

Mike

Get the local paper and check the small ads., then get a quote or two for
the job over the telephone.
That'll get you the local rate. (Here it's a paltry £5.00 per hour for
labouring)



Sue da Nimm 03-05-2004 04:10 PM

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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
. ..

Dont underestimate the time and possibly expense involved in removing the
trimmings, unless you plan to have a pretty big bonfire.

--
Tumbleweed


A chance to play with a shredder for a day or two!



Mike 03-05-2004 05:05 PM

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(Here it's a paltry £5.00 per hour for
labouring)


Others have quoted this, but it has just crossed my mind, what is the
'minimum rate' these days?



Sacha 03-05-2004 06:04 PM

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Mike3/5/04 4:28


(Here it's a paltry £5.00 per hour for
labouring)


Others have quoted this, but it has just crossed my mind, what is the
'minimum rate' these days?


"What is the National Minimum Wage?

* The National Minimum Wage has been £4.20 since 1 October 2002 (which
rose to £4.50 an hour in October 2003).
* The National Minimum Wage development rate (which applies to 18 to
21-year-olds, and to people who are 22 or over if they receive accredited
training for six months after they start work with an employer) is £3.60 an
hour (which rose to £3.80 an hour in October 2003). "
http://www.is4profit.com/busadvice/n...mwage/nmw2.htm

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Mike Lyle 03-05-2004 06:04 PM

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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message ...
"Mike" wrote in message
...


I would hate to embarrass him.

What is the usual hourly rate for skilled or semi-skilled work in your

area?
Perhaps you could ask the local labour exchange or whatever it's called

now!
I think that's the only way you can assess it fairly. Here in Devon,

it's
quite low for un-skilled at around £5.00 per hour. But our builder

charges
about £14.00 per hour, I think.


Thanks for that Sacha. The problem is 'a going rate', if I assess that on

my
rate when I was working, £25.00 - £30.00 and hour, then 'I' wouldn't do it
for £5.00 an hour, but he might be embarrassed if I offered him £20.00 per
hour. We all get on ever so well around here, doing what we can when we

can
for each other.

Mike


Dont underestimate the time and possibly expense involved in removing the
trimmings, unless you plan to have a pretty big bonfire.


A gardener's as skilled as a good builder, so why not go for that
rate? (Though I know this particular job isn't particularly skilled,
and it's presumably cash, so I doubt if he'd be insulted by a tenner
an hour.) The builder won't mind telling you how much he charges at
present. My last plumber (a good one) in West Wales charged UKP17.50
per hour with no call-out fee; I get about UKP20 per hour for proper
gardening (more, incidentally, than I get for editing or, probably,
translation).

Mike.

Mike 03-05-2004 07:05 PM

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"What is the National Minimum Wage?

* The National Minimum Wage has been £4.20 since 1 October 2002 (which
rose to £4.50 an hour in October 2003).
* The National Minimum Wage development rate (which applies to 18 to
21-year-olds, and to people who are 22 or over if they receive accredited
training for six months after they start work with an employer) is £3.60

an
hour (which rose to £3.80 an hour in October 2003). "
http://www.is4profit.com/busadvice/n...mwage/nmw2.htm


Just before I started to draw my pensions at 65, I was helping a friend, an
accountant, with his Pay Roll duties. I did know what the rate was then, but
wondered what the pittance is now.

Many thanks.

When I had my factories, I paid minimum rate + Bonus. Everyone was happy at
that. In 'theory' they could have sat and done nothing all day for basic,
but the incentive to get the work out was the bonus.

Mike




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