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Pruning parsley?
All,
My wife has successfully (maybe too successfully!) grown some parsley. It's now about 2 feet high and growing. My understanding is that we should pinch out all flowers, but should we prune it? To me it seems to be getting tall and woody, but what do I know about herbs! Thanks for suggestions, Paul DS. -- Please remove the "x-" if replying to sender. |
Pruning parsley?
In article , "Paul D.Smith" writes: | | My wife has successfully (maybe too successfully!) grown some parsley. It's | now about 2 feet high and growing. My understanding is that we should pinch | out all flowers, but should we prune it? | | To me it seems to be getting tall and woody, but what do I know about herbs! Forget it. It is a biennial, and will flower, seed and die. She needs to plant some more. If she plants some every year, then she should always have some for use, except in the depths of winter. In theory - some of us are not good at growing it .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Pruning parsley?
In article , Paul
D.Smith writes All, My wife has successfully (maybe too successfully!) grown some parsley. 'Where the parsley grows the fastest the master is the mistress' It's now about 2 feet high and growing. My understanding is that we should pinch out all flowers, but should we prune it? Parsley is a biennial - grows the first year, flowers the second. Once it is flowering it gets very woody and is in effect useless. You can prolong it's life a bit by cutting flowering stems as they appear, but its a losing battle. Best to re-sow every year, so you always have young first year growth, with the second year plants to tide you over winter and spring. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Pruning parsley?
Thanks Nick,
One further question, since only the leaves are used, is there a way to ensure a compact, bushy plant, albeit one that seeds and dies? I had always expected herbs to be somewhat low lying wheras this seems to be making a bid to be architectural! Paul DS. "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , "Paul D.Smith" writes: | | My wife has successfully (maybe too successfully!) grown some parsley. It's | now about 2 feet high and growing. My understanding is that we should pinch | out all flowers, but should we prune it? | | To me it seems to be getting tall and woody, but what do I know about herbs! Forget it. It is a biennial, and will flower, seed and die. She needs to plant some more. If she plants some every year, then she should always have some for use, except in the depths of winter. In theory - some of us are not good at growing it .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Pruning parsley?
On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:27:55 +0100, "Paul D.Smith"
wrote: One further question, since only the leaves are used, is there a way to ensure a compact, bushy plant, albeit one that seeds and dies? I had always expected herbs to be somewhat low lying wheras this seems to be making a bid to be architectural! Parsley is an herb, not a landscape plant. :-) The stems can be used as flavoring in soups & stews. You can't "prune" a plant without branches. The flower stalks are indeed a good deal taller than 1st year leaves. That's just the way the plant grows. Mine is "in bud" now, and I'm looking forward to a fresh supply of seed. |
Pruning parsley?
In article , Paul
D.Smith writes Thanks Nick, One further question, since only the leaves are used, is there a way to ensure a compact, bushy plant, albeit one that seeds and dies? I had always expected herbs to be somewhat low lying wheras this seems to be making a bid to be architectural! It is low lying - it's only the flowering stems which push skywards. Grow it fresh each year, and get rid of the old plants once they stop flowering. by the way - bottom posting is the convention in this group. Please don't top post as it muddles the threads. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Pruning parsley?
Kay,
I've not intentionally done any top/bottom posting :-(. I simply read a message using OE 6.0 and then hit "reply" if I want to respond to the post. For my own education, please define "top" and "bottom" posting. I've seen lots of discussions (OK, flame wars or rants) regarding this subject but not come across a simple definition. For example, if I see the following hierarchy displayed - who posted "bottom" and who "top"? Hello - Fred Hello - Jim Hello - Bob Hello - Audrey Hello - Julie Hello - Nigel Hello - Paul Hello - Zee Thanks/sorry, Paul DS "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Paul D.Smith writes Thanks Nick, One further question, since only the leaves are used, is there a way to ensure a compact, bushy plant, albeit one that seeds and dies? I had always expected herbs to be somewhat low lying wheras this seems to be making a bid to be architectural! It is low lying - it's only the flowering stems which push skywards. Grow it fresh each year, and get rid of the old plants once they stop flowering. by the way - bottom posting is the convention in this group. Please don't top post as it muddles the threads. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Pruning parsley?
In article , "Paul D.Smith" writes: | | I've not intentionally done any top/bottom posting :-(. I simply read a | message using OE 6.0 and then hit "reply" if I want to respond to the post. Please don't. In particular, you can do worse than top post if you trust in Microsoft - such as posting your message in revoltingly verbose and broken HTML. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Pruning parsley?
"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message . net... Kay, I've not intentionally done any top/bottom posting :-(. Yes you did - this answer of yours is 'top posted" :~( I simply read a message using OE 6.0 and then hit "reply" if I want to respond to the post. For my own education, please define "top" and "bottom" posting. Right - you'll wish you hadn't asked........: http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/bottom-posting.html rest snipped for clarity Jenny |
Pruning parsley?
In article , Paul
D.Smith writes Kay, I've not intentionally done any top/bottom posting :-(. I simply read a message using OE 6.0 and then hit "reply" if I want to respond to the post. I think that may be your problem ;-) I'm told that OE automatically puts the cursor at the top and thereby encourages top posting. For my own education, please define "top" and "bottom" posting. I've seen lots of discussions (OK, flame wars or rants) regarding this subject but not come across a simple definition. For example, if I see the following hierarchy displayed - who posted "bottom" and who "top"? Hello - Fred Hello - Jim Hello - Bob Hello - Audrey Hello - Julie Hello - Nigel Hello - Paul Hello - Zee Well, that looks to me as if everyone bottom posted. But that is when you see a hierarchy of post titles. The problem with top and bottom posting is when you come to read the post itself. With top posting, the new post appears at the top, and the one it is responding to appears underneath. With bottom posting, or as someone here phrased it rather better, in- line posting, what you see is first, enough of the original post to remind you what the point is, then the response from the new poster. If there are answers to several different points, then the respondent answers each directly below the relevant point. So you have a sequence of point 1, answer1, point 2 answer 2 ... rather as I have done here. When someone top posts in a group where bottom/in-line posting is the norm, you get a right pig's ear - as here, where below (left unsnipped for demonstration) you will find your original question followed by my answer. Thanks/sorry, Paul DS "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Paul D.Smith writes Thanks Nick, One further question, since only the leaves are used, is there a way to ensure a compact, bushy plant, albeit one that seeds and dies? I had always expected herbs to be somewhat low lying wheras this seems to be making a bid to be architectural! It is low lying - it's only the flowering stems which push skywards. Grow it fresh each year, and get rid of the old plants once they stop flowering. by the way - bottom posting is the convention in this group. Please don't top post as it muddles the threads. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Pruning parsley?
"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Paul D.Smith writes Kay, I've not intentionally done any top/bottom posting :-(. I simply read a message using OE 6.0 and then hit "reply" if I want to respond to the post. I think that may be your problem ;-) I'm told that OE automatically puts the cursor at the top and thereby encourages top posting. For my own education, please define "top" and "bottom" posting. I've seen lots of discussions (OK, flame wars or rants) regarding this subject but not come across a simple definition. For example, if I see the following hierarchy displayed - who posted "bottom" and who "top"? Hello - Fred Hello - Jim Hello - Bob Hello - Audrey Hello - Julie Hello - Nigel Hello - Paul Hello - Zee Well, that looks to me as if everyone bottom posted. But that is when you see a hierarchy of post titles. The problem with top and bottom posting is when you come to read the post itself. With top posting, the new post appears at the top, and the one it is responding to appears underneath. With bottom posting, or as someone here phrased it rather better, in- line posting, what you see is first, enough of the original post to remind you what the point is, then the response from the new poster. If there are answers to several different points, then the respondent answers each directly below the relevant point. So you have a sequence of point 1, answer1, point 2 answer 2 ... rather as I have done here. When someone top posts in a group where bottom/in-line posting is the norm, you get a right pig's ear - as here, where below (left unsnipped for demonstration) you will find your original question followed by my answer. Thanks/sorry, Paul DS "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Paul D.Smith writes Thanks Nick, One further question, since only the leaves are used, is there a way to ensure a compact, bushy plant, albeit one that seeds and dies? I had always expected herbs to be somewhat low lying wheras this seems to be making a bid to be architectural! It is low lying - it's only the flowering stems which push skywards. Grow it fresh each year, and get rid of the old plants once they stop flowering. by the way - bottom posting is the convention in this group. Please don't top post as it muddles the threads. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm I think I see. So this is a bottom post, right? Main problem I see is that with a top post, I know where the most recent, and therefore useful, information is - at the top of the mail. With bottom posting, the start of the most recent information is at some unknown point up from the end of the mail. Oh, and for all I know, the responder has inserted responses too, since that sometimes makes sense. Note that I'm not trying to start a flame war here - this is just my initial thoughts on bottom/top posting. I've been sent some more information regarding this which I'll read to get the "feel" for why this upsets so many people ;-). Thanks for the info, Paul DS. Paul DS. |
Pruning parsley?
[snip] I've not intentionally done any top/bottom posting :-(. Yes you did - this answer of yours is 'top posted" :~( No I didn't. I didn't in any way choose - I just started typing where the cursor appeared! [snip] Right - you'll wish you hadn't asked........: http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/bottom-posting.html Actually I'm glad I did. This explains all, including OEs behaviour. As this link explains, top posting is common for business - guess where I am whilst typing this! Top posting ensures that the response is clearly at the top and cannot be lost in amongst other test that may not be clearly indicated. As an example, I monitor mailing lists where a posting may be a 10th level response (yes, really). I can assure you that trying to sift through interleaved "" and all the other variants of "mark my response", together with various better or worse repaginations (i.e. line breaks in weird and wonderful places) soon makes you realise why business uses top-posting. For OE's part, MS products are business orientated (no, I'm not an MS fan but I still have to acknowledge some of their ideas). Business requires both clarity (see above) and often a complete "paper trail". It is far better to alway keep the entire "conversation" in all responses, responses-to-responses etc. that use [snip]. For example, many businesses do _not_ maintain "paper trails" so any responses to them _must_ contain the original message or they have no context (I have little regard for this "read is and discard" apporach but it happens!). As to where a mail/news application places the cursor, as the link above indicates, bottom posting is often "interleaved posting" in which case there is no way the application can know where the responder will start so starting "at the top", is the obvious solution. Finally, don't think I can't see the benefits of the [snip] for home (dial-up) users. I do my best to snip sensibly :-.). rest snipped for clarity Jenny OK, bottom line - I'll try my best to not annoy too many people and will pick top/bottom/interleaved as seems appropriate to circumstances and "location". Now what was that phrase about pleasing all the people all the time? :-) Thanks for the education, Paul DS. |
Pruning parsley?
In article , "Paul D.Smith" writes: | "Kay Easton" wrote in message | ... | | [ Quite a lot snipped ] | | I think I see. So this is a bottom post, right? Main problem I see is that | with a top post, I know where the most recent, and therefore useful, | information is - at the top of the mail. With bottom posting, the start of | the most recent information is at some unknown point up from the end of the | mail. Oh, and for all I know, the responder has inserted responses too, | since that sometimes makes sense. Yes, but it was a VERY BAD bottom post. You should have removed the extraneous junk, in which case it becomes clear which aspect of the previous posting you are replying to. Look at what I have done. Some threads accumulate many thousands of lines of responses, and it would be insane to include everything, top or bottom. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Pruning parsley?
"Pam Moore" wrote in message
... On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:02:08 +0100, "Paul D.Smith" wrote: As I see it, you have two choices. Either keep using it but cut off the tall stems which will produce flowers and then seed. I am new to gardening so please excuse me if this is a stupid question, but....I have a large Parsley plant growing in a pot in my kitchen. A long stem has suddenly appeared which has different leaves to the others and I am assuming that this is the flower stem. Am I right in thinking that if I cut off the long stem before the plant flowers, the plant will keep on growing rather than flowering and dying? If this is the case, how long would the plant last after I cut off the flower stem (indefinitely? 1 year?) Jeannie |
Pruning parsley?
In article , "Jeannie" writes: | | I am new to gardening so please excuse me if this is a stupid question, | but....I have a large Parsley plant growing in a pot in my kitchen. A long | stem has suddenly appeared which has different leaves to the others and I am | assuming that this is the flower stem. Am I right in thinking that if I cut | off the long stem before the plant flowers, the plant will keep on growing | rather than flowering and dying? If this is the case, how long would the | plant last after I cut off the flower stem (indefinitely? 1 year?) Not in my experience. Once it has started to form its flowering shoot, it is beyond hope. You can delay the process a bit by removing the flowering stem early enough, but it is better to start with a new plant. Your approach works with angelica (though don't bother trying that in a pot), but I have never got it to work with parsley. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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