What gives me this idea? Well I've dug up a very old rose root, dug out a 3
foot oak sapling and I'm winning the battle of the dandelions but these are
not the biggest clues. I went out in the garden after the rain stopped and
walked carefully round loads of slugs and snails. I then thought about it,
went back and put on my wellies and walked back equally carefully not round
them talking to myself to disguise the noise! I feel guilty but keep telling
myself that it's quicker for them than pellets!

Sue

"Sue" wrote in message
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What gives me this idea? Well I've dug up a very old rose root, dug out a
3
foot oak sapling and I'm winning the battle of the dandelions but these
are
not the biggest clues. I went out in the garden after the rain stopped and
walked carefully round loads of slugs and snails. I then thought about it,
went back and put on my wellies and walked back equally carefully not
round
them talking to myself to disguise the noise! I feel guilty but keep
telling
myself that it's quicker for them than pellets!


You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there is no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty, there'll be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.

Steve
http://mysite.freeserve.com/steveandmaggiesplot

"Sue" wrote in message
...
What gives me this idea? Well I've dug up a very old rose root, dug out a
3
foot oak sapling and I'm winning the battle of the dandelions but these
are
not the biggest clues. I went out in the garden after the rain stopped and
walked carefully round loads of slugs and snails. I then thought about it,
went back and put on my wellies and walked back equally carefully not
round
them talking to myself to disguise the noise! I feel guilty but keep
telling
myself that it's quicker for them than pellets!


Don't worry I think it has happened to me aswell. Only had a garden of my
own for two years, but I think I've started to turn into my Dad. Isn't
getting old great ;-)

p.s. I must go slug hunting soon, before the little devils eat my emerging
bulbs.


Sue

----- Original Message -----
From: "shazzbat"

You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there is no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty, there'll be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.


Goody, I've got them too. Will they eat the slugs?

Sue

"Sue" wrote in message
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----- Original Message -----
From: "shazzbat"

You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there is no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty, there'll
be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.


Goody, I've got them too. Will they eat the slugs?

Yes, slugs are their favourite. They won't eat all of them, but you can't
have everything. Pellets poison the slugs, and then if frogs eat the slugs,
they get poisoned too :-((

Rough guide to what's in the garden - Slow is bad
(slugs/snails/caterpillars), fast is good. (beetles/spiders etc)

Steve

"shazzbat" wrote in message
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"Sue" wrote in message
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----- Original Message -----
From: "shazzbat"

You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there is
no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty,
there'll
be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.


Goody, I've got them too. Will they eat the slugs?

Yes, slugs are their favourite. They won't eat all of them, but you can't
have everything. Pellets poison the slugs, and then if frogs eat the
slugs,
they get poisoned too :-((

Rough guide to what's in the garden - Slow is bad
(slugs/snails/caterpillars), fast is good. (beetles/spiders etc)


Not sure I agree with this, as it would put me the bad catergory.

Steve

In article , shazzbat shazzbat@spamle
ssness.fsnet.co.uk writes
Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails

.. . . . the age old problem (( This is an extract from a book by
Jeffery Farnol, written in 1933 or thereabouts -

.. . . . . . to the vigorous nurture of such right succulent edibles as
peas, beans, parsnips, onions, carrots, potatoes and what he termed
'sallet raffle'.
The coxswain gardened, fair or foul, spade, fork, rake and hoe,
like a true seaman, A.B., that is to say - with a will and cheerily-o!
and in despite of the piratical depredations of such slimy and stealthy
foes as slugs, snails, wire-worms, grubs and the like foes, against whom
he waged desperate and unceasing warfare with soot, with salt and any or
every lethal weapon as came readiest to hand, more especially a certain
stick armed with a long, sharp spike that he dubbed his 'belaying pin'.
Such earnest, nay indeed such passionate gardener was the
coxswain that on moonless nights, when all save trouble and wickedness
slept, he was wont to steal forth armed with dark lantern and the
belaying pin and thus cut out, capture or destroy these creeping foes at
their fiendly work by what he described as 'the Element of Surprise.'
But even this afternoon a slug more reckless than his fellows
and venturing abroad scornful of danger, was espied by the ever-watchful
coxswain, who instantly bore down to bring this audacious foe to close
action; in other words, Benjamin Piper, A.B., was stalking this
destroyer with elaborate caution, his feet were soundless, his one eye
gleamed, the spade gripped in knotted hands was lifted slowly for
exterminating stroke when . . . . . . . . .


Oh, I do love the way Jeffery Farnol describes things ))))))))
I think slugs and snails have *ever* been a problem to the hoticulturist
and always will be (((((


--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see

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----- Original Message -----
From: "shazzbat"

You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of
the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there
is
no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty,
there'll
be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.


Goody, I've got them too. Will they eat the slugs?

Yes, slugs are their favourite. They won't eat all of them, but you
can't
have everything. Pellets poison the slugs, and then if frogs eat the
slugs,
they get poisoned too :-((

Rough guide to what's in the garden - Slow is bad
(slugs/snails/caterpillars), fast is good. (beetles/spiders etc)


Not sure I agree with this, as it would put me the bad catergory.


There are exceptions to every rule, and this rule is no exception :-))

Steve

"Jane Ransom" wrote in message
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In article , shazzbat shazzbat@spamle
ssness.fsnet.co.uk writes
Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails

. . . . the age old problem (( This is an extract from a book by
Jeffery Farnol, written in 1933 or thereabouts -

. . . . . . to the vigorous nurture of such right succulent edibles as
peas, beans, parsnips, onions, carrots, potatoes and what he termed
'sallet raffle'.
The coxswain gardened, fair or foul, spade, fork, rake and hoe,
like a true seaman, A.B., that is to say - with a will and cheerily-o!
and in despite of the piratical depredations of such slimy and stealthy
foes as slugs, snails, wire-worms, grubs and the like foes, against whom
he waged desperate and unceasing warfare with soot, with salt and any or
every lethal weapon as came readiest to hand, more especially a certain
stick armed with a long, sharp spike that he dubbed his 'belaying pin'.
Such earnest, nay indeed such passionate gardener was the
coxswain that on moonless nights, when all save trouble and wickedness
slept, he was wont to steal forth armed with dark lantern and the
belaying pin and thus cut out, capture or destroy these creeping foes at
their fiendly work by what he described as 'the Element of Surprise.'
But even this afternoon a slug more reckless than his fellows
and venturing abroad scornful of danger, was espied by the ever-watchful
coxswain, who instantly bore down to bring this audacious foe to close
action; in other words, Benjamin Piper, A.B., was stalking this
destroyer with elaborate caution, his feet were soundless, his one eye
gleamed, the spade gripped in knotted hands was lifted slowly for
exterminating stroke when . . . . . . . . .

LOL wonderful stuff)

Ophelia

"Sue" wrote in message
...

----- Original Message -----
From: "shazzbat"

You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there is no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty, there'll
be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.


Goody, I've got them too. Will they eat the slugs?

Sue
****************************
For the slugs and snails, go to Asdas, They sell three sizes of well made
torches and they are cheap. They have the facility on the lighting head
end (the part where the bulb is) to alter the breadth size of the beam,-
which is useful.
You go out at nightfall just as it has got dark and do a few sweeps of the
garden wearing washing-up gloves from Asdas. Get a plastic bucket while you
are at it. Make sure you are clothed correctly, - at that time the house is
warm and cold damp has fallen outside.
Pick up the slugs and snails and give the next door Neighbours from Hell the
pleasure of their company by chucking them over the fence in a high wide
arc. One at a time and in spearate directions.
Alternatively put them in the bin and let them multiply in the Corporation
dumps where they will do more good than in your garden.
I don't have slugs or snails any more. I have a small pond which I have
seeded with frogs and toads. They come and spawn every year. (they are
missing this year for some reason.)
Important!! -- DO NOT HAVE A POND IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN.
I myself have fallen into mine three times and the third time I fell
awkwardly and damaged my thigh.
Now I have a very heavy strong wire grid over it at all times.
Doug.

"Douglas" wrote in message
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"Sue" wrote in message
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----- Original Message -----
From: "shazzbat"

You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there is
no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty,
there'll
be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.


Goody, I've got them too. Will they eat the slugs?

Sue
****************************
For the slugs and snails, go to Asdas, They sell three sizes of well
made
torches and they are cheap. They have the facility on the lighting head
end (the part where the bulb is) to alter the breadth size of the beam,-
which is useful.
You go out at nightfall just as it has got dark and do a few sweeps of the
garden wearing washing-up gloves from Asdas. Get a plastic bucket while
you
are at it. Make sure you are clothed correctly, - at that time the house
is
warm and cold damp has fallen outside.
Pick up the slugs and snails and give the next door Neighbours from Hell
the
pleasure of their company by chucking them over the fence in a high wide
arc. One at a time and in spearate directions.
Alternatively put them in the bin and let them multiply in the Corporation
dumps where they will do more good than in your garden.
I don't have slugs or snails any more. I have a small pond which I have
seeded with frogs and toads. They come and spawn every year. (they are
missing this year for some reason.)
Important!! -- DO NOT HAVE A POND IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN.
I myself have fallen into mine three times and the third time I fell
awkwardly and damaged my thigh.

I also have a pond but make a point of not drinking to much when I'm near it
;-)

How on earth did you manage to fall in three times (I'm reminded of
something that Oscar Wilde said.)


Now I have a very heavy strong wire grid over it at all times.
Doug.

"Sue" wrote in message
...

----- Original Message -----
From: "shazzbat"

You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there is no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty, there'll
be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.


Goody, I've got them too. Will they eat the slugs?

Sue
****************************
For the slugs and snails, go to Asdas, They sell three sizes of well made
torches and they are cheap. They have the facility on the lighting head
end (the part where the bulb is) to alter the breadth size of the beam,-
which is useful.
You go out at nightfall just as it has got dark and do a few sweeps of the
garden wearing washing-up gloves from Asdas. Get a plastic bucket while you
are at it. Make sure you are clothed correctly, - at that time the house is
warm and cold damp has fallen outside.
Pick up the slugs and snails and give the next door Neighbours from Hell the
pleasure of their company by chucking them over the fence in a high wide
arc. One at a time and in spearate directions.
Alternatively put them in the bin and let them multiply in the Corporation
dumps where they will do more good than in your garden.
I don't have slugs or snails any more. I have a small pond which I have
seeded with frogs and toads. They come and spawn every year. (they are
missing this year for some reason.)
Important!! -- DO NOT HAVE A POND IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN.
I myself have fallen into mine three times and the third time I fell
awkwardly and damaged my thigh.
Now I have a very heavy strong wire grid over it at all times.
Doug.

"Douglas" wrote in message
...

"Sue" wrote in message
...

----- Original Message -----
From: "shazzbat"

You're a gardener, no question about it. Welcome aboard.

Just one flaw in your reasoning. You will never win the battle of the
dandelions, or the slugs/snails come to think of it. However there is
no
reason you shouldn't enjoy yourself trying. Don't feel guilty,
there'll
be
plenty more. And not using pellets is also frog friendly.


Goody, I've got them too. Will they eat the slugs?

Sue
****************************
For the slugs and snails, go to Asdas, They sell three sizes of well
made
torches and they are cheap. They have the facility on the lighting head
end (the part where the bulb is) to alter the breadth size of the beam,-
which is useful.
You go out at nightfall just as it has got dark and do a few sweeps of the
garden wearing washing-up gloves from Asdas. Get a plastic bucket while
you
are at it. Make sure you are clothed correctly, - at that time the house
is
warm and cold damp has fallen outside.
Pick up the slugs and snails and give the next door Neighbours from Hell
the
pleasure of their company by chucking them over the fence in a high wide
arc. One at a time and in spearate directions.
Alternatively put them in the bin and let them multiply in the Corporation
dumps where they will do more good than in your garden.
I don't have slugs or snails any more. I have a small pond which I have
seeded with frogs and toads. They come and spawn every year. (they are
missing this year for some reason.)
Important!! -- DO NOT HAVE A POND IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN.
I myself have fallen into mine three times and the third time I fell
awkwardly and damaged my thigh.

I also have a pond but make a point of not drinking to much when I'm near it
;-)

How on earth did you manage to fall in three times (I'm reminded of
something that Oscar Wilde said.)


Now I have a very heavy strong wire grid over it at all times.
Doug.

In article ,
(Douglas) wrote:

I don't have slugs or snails any more. I have a small pond which I
have seeded with frogs and toads

Is it really that effective?

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/

In article , Steve
Harris writes
In article ,
(Douglas) wrote:

I don't have slugs or snails any more. I have a small pond which I
have seeded with frogs and toads

Is it really that effective?


I've got a small pond that 'self-seeded' with frogs & toads and have
never had a problem with slugs (numerous Hostas with pristine leaves are
testimony to that!)
However in the last 2 years, we've suddenly become invaded by snails
which are proving a right pain.
I assume frogs & toads can't eat them because of their shells?

Best Wishes,
--
Jeff Taylor