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Old 10-06-2004, 08:37 PM
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In article: Ian Stirling
writes:
In uk.d-i-y Paul Mc Cann wrote:
In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.

He could have bled to death.

Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


It's going to obtain some velocity, but not really very much.
You'd probably get more out of an airgun.


How fitting.

--
Neil Barking






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Old 10-06-2004, 09:04 PM
Bill
 
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Probably the mower was a Suffolk Colt45!!



"David Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.



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Old 10-06-2004, 10:37 PM
Major Neil Barking
 
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Default Amazing fact #138

In article: Ian Stirling
writes:
In uk.d-i-y Paul Mc Cann wrote:
In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.

He could have bled to death.

Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


It's going to obtain some velocity, but not really very much.
You'd probably get more out of an airgun.


How fitting.

--
Neil Barking








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Old 10-06-2004, 11:23 PM
Bill
 
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Probably the mower was a Suffolk Colt45!!



"David Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.



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Old 10-06-2004, 11:42 PM
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dps wrote in message ...
J. Del Col wrote:
...When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests...




When I was a kid and didn't know any better, we made a gun from a cap
pistol, the kind that used the circular array of 6 caps. We drilled out
the cylinder to fit a .22 caliber bullet and filed down the hammer to
hit at the edge of the shell. The barrel was clear and about 1/2"
diameter. Having done all this, we went out to the field and fired it at
a bottle. After firing 20 or 30 rounds and apparently not hitting the
bottle, we put the muzzle right into the neck of the bottle and fired.

The slug bounced around in the bottom of the intact bottle.

The cylinder must have fit the shell fairly well, because the brass came
out easily (no flaring of the end), but there was nothing past the
cylinder, so the gas from the powder burning just blew by the slug and
it got no appreciable velocity.......



Yes, a .22 cal bullet rattling down a .45 cal barrel isn't going to
move very fast.

There was also probably a rather large gap between the cylinder and
the barrel; this would have allowed even more gas to escape.

OTOH, it's a good thing it didn't develp much pressure--you still can
count in base ten.

As far as the OP is concerned, someone may indeed have shot the good
reverend, but it wasn't the lawnmower.



J. Del Col
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:56 PM
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Default Amazing fact #138

In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Paul Mc Cann wrote:
In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.

He could have bled to death.

Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


It's going to obtain some velocity, but not really very much.
You'd probably get more out of an airgun.

Its a long time ago bit ISTR the bullet was held in a metalworkers vice
before the percussion cap was struck with a nail. The brass case did not
collapse and the bullet couldn't be found !

Maybe they made them better in those days ;')

Paul Mc Cann
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Old 11-06-2004, 12:24 AM
Bill
 
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Default Amazing fact #138

Probably the mower was a Suffolk Colt45!!



"David Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.



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Old 11-06-2004, 12:41 AM
J. Del Col
 
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dps wrote in message ...
J. Del Col wrote:
...When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests...




When I was a kid and didn't know any better, we made a gun from a cap
pistol, the kind that used the circular array of 6 caps. We drilled out
the cylinder to fit a .22 caliber bullet and filed down the hammer to
hit at the edge of the shell. The barrel was clear and about 1/2"
diameter. Having done all this, we went out to the field and fired it at
a bottle. After firing 20 or 30 rounds and apparently not hitting the
bottle, we put the muzzle right into the neck of the bottle and fired.

The slug bounced around in the bottom of the intact bottle.

The cylinder must have fit the shell fairly well, because the brass came
out easily (no flaring of the end), but there was nothing past the
cylinder, so the gas from the powder burning just blew by the slug and
it got no appreciable velocity.......



Yes, a .22 cal bullet rattling down a .45 cal barrel isn't going to
move very fast.

There was also probably a rather large gap between the cylinder and
the barrel; this would have allowed even more gas to escape.

OTOH, it's a good thing it didn't develp much pressure--you still can
count in base ten.

As far as the OP is concerned, someone may indeed have shot the good
reverend, but it wasn't the lawnmower.



J. Del Col


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Old 11-06-2004, 12:53 AM
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Default Amazing fact #138

In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Paul Mc Cann wrote:
In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.

He could have bled to death.

Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


It's going to obtain some velocity, but not really very much.
You'd probably get more out of an airgun.

Its a long time ago bit ISTR the bullet was held in a metalworkers vice
before the percussion cap was struck with a nail. The brass case did not
collapse and the bullet couldn't be found !

Maybe they made them better in those days ;')

Paul Mc Cann
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Old 11-06-2004, 01:24 AM
Bill
 
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Default Amazing fact #138

Probably the mower was a Suffolk Colt45!!



"David Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.



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J. Del Col
 
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dps wrote in message ...
J. Del Col wrote:
...When a cartridge detonates outside a gun's chamber, the bullet barely
moves. The cartridge case may split and the primer may go flying, but
the bullet travels only a short distance at low velocity. An
unconfined bullet can't develop the pressure necessary to hit with any
force. This has been confirmed by repeated tests...




When I was a kid and didn't know any better, we made a gun from a cap
pistol, the kind that used the circular array of 6 caps. We drilled out
the cylinder to fit a .22 caliber bullet and filed down the hammer to
hit at the edge of the shell. The barrel was clear and about 1/2"
diameter. Having done all this, we went out to the field and fired it at
a bottle. After firing 20 or 30 rounds and apparently not hitting the
bottle, we put the muzzle right into the neck of the bottle and fired.

The slug bounced around in the bottom of the intact bottle.

The cylinder must have fit the shell fairly well, because the brass came
out easily (no flaring of the end), but there was nothing past the
cylinder, so the gas from the powder burning just blew by the slug and
it got no appreciable velocity.......



Yes, a .22 cal bullet rattling down a .45 cal barrel isn't going to
move very fast.

There was also probably a rather large gap between the cylinder and
the barrel; this would have allowed even more gas to escape.

OTOH, it's a good thing it didn't develp much pressure--you still can
count in base ten.

As far as the OP is concerned, someone may indeed have shot the good
reverend, but it wasn't the lawnmower.



J. Del Col
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Default Amazing fact #138

In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Paul Mc Cann wrote:
In article ,
says...
In uk.d-i-y Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip go@fish wrote:
Be still and pray homage to Illogic Bomb who posted this on 04 Jun 2004...

go@fish (Reverend Parson Peter Parsnip) wrote in
-vegetables:

Be still and pray homage to David Fawthrop who posted this on 04 Jun
2004...

Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.

Did he die?


Not unless his brain was in his foot or something.

He could have bled to death.

Unlikely.
When you set off a cartridge that's not inside a gun, if it's unrestrained
the brass simply shoots off the bullet (which is heavier) at a relatively
low velocity, due to the very low pressure.
If it is restrained, it bursts the cartridge, again at a very low pressure,
and with a very short 'barrel', little speed is reached by the bullet.

I wouldn't be an expert but I was present when a 22 round went off after
being struck with a nail (don't ask) and it scared the s***t out of me
as it definitely attained some velocity


It's going to obtain some velocity, but not really very much.
You'd probably get more out of an airgun.

Its a long time ago bit ISTR the bullet was held in a metalworkers vice
before the percussion cap was struck with a nail. The brass case did not
collapse and the bullet couldn't be found !

Maybe they made them better in those days ;')

Paul Mc Cann
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Bill
 
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Probably the mower was a Suffolk Colt45!!



"David Fawthrop" wrote in message
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Robert Heinbaugh of Plainsville, Ohio, has the distinction of being
the first person in the world to be shot by a lawn mower... As he cut
the grass one evening, he ran over a live bullet which went off and
shot him in the foot.



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