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Adrian 10-06-2004 05:13 PM

Lupins
 
Dear all,

We've sucessfully grown a large number of lupins from seed and I see
the instructions say not to plant out until Sept. Internet searches
also confirm this.

Frustratingly nobody says why! Can anyone enligten me?

Thanks,

Adrian.

Victoria Clare 10-06-2004 05:18 PM

Lupins
 
Adrian wrote in
:

Dear all,

We've sucessfully grown a large number of lupins from seed and I see
the instructions say not to plant out until Sept. Internet searches
also confirm this.

Frustratingly nobody says why! Can anyone enligten me?


Lupins are very vulnerable to slug/snail attack, and you can lose an entire
sowing overnight (happened to me :-().

Could it be that the idea is to keep them in a slug-free environment till
they are quite big and fully hardened off so they stand a better chance of
surviving?

Incidentally, tree lupins are much tougher and don't suffer from slugs
anything like as much. I've grown a blue-flowering one that's covered in
blooms at the moment, and has a fantastic scent (but they are quite
variable - another plant from the same packet has rather dull yellow
flowers, and no scent at all :-(.)

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Kate Morgan 10-06-2004 05:18 PM

Lupins
 

We've sucessfully grown a large number of lupins from seed and I see
the instructions say not to plant out until Sept. Internet searches
also confirm this.

Frustratingly nobody says why! Can anyone enligten me?


Lupins are very vulnerable to slug/snail attack, and you can lose an entire
sowing overnight (happened to me :-().

Could it be that the idea is to keep them in a slug-free environment till
they are quite big and fully hardened off so they stand a better chance of
surviving?

I keep mine in big pots overwinter and plant out the next year, seems
to work for me :-)
kate

Just Molly 10-06-2004 05:19 PM

Lupins
 

"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
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Adrian wrote in
:

Dear all,

We've sucessfully grown a large number of lupins from seed and I see
the instructions say not to plant out until Sept. Internet searches
also confirm this.

Frustratingly nobody says why! Can anyone enligten me?


Lupins are very vulnerable to slug/snail attack, and you can lose an

entire
sowing overnight (happened to me :-().

Could it be that the idea is to keep them in a slug-free environment till
they are quite big and fully hardened off so they stand a better chance

of
surviving?

Incidentally, tree lupins are much tougher and don't suffer from slugs
anything like as much. I've grown a blue-flowering one that's covered in
blooms at the moment, and has a fantastic scent (but they are quite
variable - another plant from the same packet has rather dull yellow
flowers, and no scent at all :-(.)


I have the solution . Plant the lupins and get a couple of indian runner or
call ducks to eat the slugs. Works for me :0)



Rhiannon S 10-06-2004 05:25 PM

Lupins
 
Subject: Lupins
From: Victoria Clare
Date: 07/06/2004 10:06 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

Adrian wrote in
:

Dear all,

We've sucessfully grown a large number of lupins from seed and I see
the instructions say not to plant out until Sept. Internet searches
also confirm this.

Frustratingly nobody says why! Can anyone enligten me?


Lupins are very vulnerable to slug/snail attack, and you can lose an entire
sowing overnight (happened to me :-().


Funnily enough, I just noticed last week that the verges along the M8 and M73
are covered in Lupins. It looks lovely.


--
Rhiannon
http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhiannon_s/
"The trick is to commit crimes so confusing that police feel too stupid to even
write a crime report about them."
Aubrey on remaining at liberty
www.somethingpositive.net

shazzbat 10-06-2004 05:32 PM

Lupins
 

"Rhiannon S" wrote in message
...
Subject: Lupins
From: Victoria Clare
Date: 07/06/2004 10:06 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

Adrian wrote in
:

Dear all,

We've sucessfully grown a large number of lupins from seed and I see
the instructions say not to plant out until Sept. Internet searches
also confirm this.

Frustratingly nobody says why! Can anyone enligten me?


Lupins are very vulnerable to slug/snail attack, and you can lose an

entire
sowing overnight (happened to me :-().


Funnily enough, I just noticed last week that the verges along the M8 and

M73
are covered in Lupins. It looks lovely.

I hope it stays that way. Presumably they were sown by a green "terrorist"
throwing seeds out of the car window. Some years ago I planted some spare
daffodil bulbs on a grass bank near me. They looked great the next spring,
but the council contractors promptly mowed them and they haven't been seen
since. :-((

Steve



Kay 10-06-2004 05:35 PM

Lupins
 
In article , shazzbat shazzbat@spamle
ssness.fsnet.co.uk writes

"Rhiannon S" wrote in message
...
Subject: Lupins
From: Victoria Clare
Date: 07/06/2004 10:06 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:

Adrian wrote in
:

Dear all,

We've sucessfully grown a large number of lupins from seed and I see
the instructions say not to plant out until Sept. Internet searches
also confirm this.

Frustratingly nobody says why! Can anyone enligten me?

Lupins are very vulnerable to slug/snail attack, and you can lose an

entire
sowing overnight (happened to me :-().


Funnily enough, I just noticed last week that the verges along the M8 and

M73
are covered in Lupins. It looks lovely.

I hope it stays that way. Presumably they were sown by a green "terrorist"
throwing seeds out of the car window. Some years ago I planted some spare
daffodil bulbs on a grass bank near me. They looked great the next spring,
but the council contractors promptly mowed them and they haven't been seen
since. :-((

You need to be very careful when planting spare plants in this way - OK
in town, but not in the countryside - our native plants are already
having a tough fight against imported aliens which have escaped from
gardens or been deliberately let loose - himalayan balsam, japanese
knotweed, Rhododendron ponticum, spanish bluebell to name just a fe -
all of these seemed harmless enough at the time.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Victoria Clare 10-06-2004 05:35 PM

Lupins
 
emon (Rhiannon S) wrote in
:

Subject: Lupins
From: Victoria Clare


Lupins are very vulnerable to slug/snail attack, and you can lose an
entire sowing overnight (happened to me :-().


Funnily enough, I just noticed last week that the verges along the M8
and M73 are covered in Lupins. It looks lovely.


There's a railway somewhere between Leicester and Birmingham where the
banks used to be covered in them too (purple ones). Fantastic sight.

But ones I grow from seed are just slug magnets. Different variety,
perhaps?

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Rhiannon S 10-06-2004 05:39 PM

Lupins
 
Subject: Lupins
From: Victoria Clare
Date: 07/06/2004 14:08 GMT Daylight Time
Message-id:



But ones I grow from seed are just slug magnets. Different variety,
perhaps?


Any plant grown intentionally will attract slugs. They seem to know what you
want to keep and what you don't.

[cf the "My slugs are nuts" thread]
--
Rhiannon
http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhiannon_s/
"The trick is to commit crimes so confusing that police feel too stupid to even
write a crime report about them."
Aubrey on remaining at liberty
www.somethingpositive.net

Kate Morgan 10-06-2004 05:45 PM

Lupins
 

There's a railway somewhere between Leicester and Birmingham where the
banks used to be covered in them too (purple ones). Fantastic sight.

does anyone remember the days when country railway staions used to be
planted up with brilliant displays and the railway banks where used to
grow veg etc.

kate

Jack In The Thundersley 10-06-2004 06:08 PM

Lupins
 

"Kate Morgan" wrote in message
...

There's a railway somewhere between Leicester and Birmingham where the
banks used to be covered in them too (purple ones). Fantastic sight.

does anyone remember the days when country railway staions used to be
planted up with brilliant displays and the railway banks where used to
grow veg etc.

kate


My Lupins were hit by whitefly, I was told to wait, the ladybirds will
come...honest they will... They didn't and the Lupins dried and wilted. I
never knew the simple, blast them off with water trick. simple and always
works for me now, unless i see an army of ladybirds approaching



shazzbat 10-06-2004 07:01 PM

Lupins
 

"Kate Morgan" wrote in message
...

There's a railway somewhere between Leicester and Birmingham where the
banks used to be covered in them too (purple ones). Fantastic sight.

does anyone remember the days when country railway staions used to be
planted up with brilliant displays and the railway banks where used to
grow veg etc.


It still happens. A few years ago my sister was station manager at Disley,
and she planted up various parts of the station and got a lot of positive
press for it.

Steve



Jack In The Thundersley 10-06-2004 07:09 PM

Lupins
 

"Kate Morgan" wrote in message
...

There's a railway somewhere between Leicester and Birmingham where the
banks used to be covered in them too (purple ones). Fantastic sight.

does anyone remember the days when country railway staions used to be
planted up with brilliant displays and the railway banks where used to
grow veg etc.

kate


My Lupins were hit by whitefly, I was told to wait, the ladybirds will
come...honest they will... They didn't and the Lupins dried and wilted. I
never knew the simple, blast them off with water trick. simple and always
works for me now, unless i see an army of ladybirds approaching



shazzbat 10-06-2004 08:00 PM

Lupins
 

"Kate Morgan" wrote in message
...

There's a railway somewhere between Leicester and Birmingham where the
banks used to be covered in them too (purple ones). Fantastic sight.

does anyone remember the days when country railway staions used to be
planted up with brilliant displays and the railway banks where used to
grow veg etc.


It still happens. A few years ago my sister was station manager at Disley,
and she planted up various parts of the station and got a lot of positive
press for it.

Steve



Jack In The Thundersley 10-06-2004 08:15 PM

Lupins
 

"Kate Morgan" wrote in message
...

There's a railway somewhere between Leicester and Birmingham where the
banks used to be covered in them too (purple ones). Fantastic sight.

does anyone remember the days when country railway staions used to be
planted up with brilliant displays and the railway banks where used to
grow veg etc.

kate


My Lupins were hit by whitefly, I was told to wait, the ladybirds will
come...honest they will... They didn't and the Lupins dried and wilted. I
never knew the simple, blast them off with water trick. simple and always
works for me now, unless i see an army of ladybirds approaching




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