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Meat-eating [Was: Clarification: HOW YOU CAN HELP stop fishing?]
Wilson Woods vârmïnt@frèêdom.úsâ.çøm wrote in message link.net...
[...] There should have been extra emphasis: our teeth and the rest of our anatomy are *not* well adapted to eating ***large*** quantities of meat... Our teeth and anatomy are very well adapted to eating moderate quantities of meat. In general, people shouldn't be eating 20 ounce porterhouse steaks; that just isn't healthful. People SHOULD be eating 4-6 ounce filets, pork chops, chicken breasts, fish steaks, etc. - along with cereal grains, fresh green vegetables, beans and other legumes, and fresh fruit, meat/poultry/fish servings in that range are very healthful indeed. [...] (Non-urg follow-ups removed.) Not sure if any in urg are following this irritatingly mixed-quality thread; but it's not entirely irrelevant. We do need to change to a low-meat diet, regardless of health issues, because high levels of meat-production are not sustainable in planetary terms. For some kinds of meat and fish, this is already reflected in the price; so, without even thinking much about it, many of us already use animal products as a treat or a flavouring rather than a major fat and protein source. Mike. |
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Meat-eating [Was: Clarification: HOW YOU CAN HELP stop fishing?]
In message , Nick Maclaren
writes In article , (Mike Lyle) writes: | | Not sure if any in urg are following this irritatingly mixed-quality | thread; but it's not entirely irrelevant. We do need to change to a | low-meat diet, regardless of health issues, because high levels of | meat-production are not sustainable in planetary terms. For some kinds | of meat and fish, this is already reflected in the price; so, without | even thinking much about it, many of us already use animal products as | a treat or a flavouring rather than a major fat and protein source. That does not follow - we could perfectly well adopt the strategy proposed by Swift :-) please elucidate... -- dave @ stejonda Bring culture back to NTL. http://www.performance-channel.com/ |
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Meat-eating [Was: Clarification: HOW YOU CAN HELP stop fishing?]
In article , "dave @ stejonda" writes: | | That does not follow - we could perfectly well adopt the strategy | proposed by Swift :-) | | please elucidate... Jonathan Swift, 1729. See, for example: http://www.english.upenn.edu/~jlynch...ts/modest.html Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Meat-eating [Was: Clarification: HOW YOU CAN HELP stop fishing?]
In message , Nick Maclaren
writes In article , "dave @ stejonda" writes: | | That does not follow - we could perfectly well adopt the strategy | proposed by Swift :-) | | please elucidate... Jonathan Swift, 1729. See, for example: http://www.english.upenn.edu/~jlynch...ts/modest.html I think I'd rather be vege' - but thanks. -- dave @ stejonda |
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Meat-eating [Was: Clarification: HOW YOU CAN HELP stop fishing?]
(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
In article , (Mike Lyle) writes: | | Not sure if any in urg are following this irritatingly mixed-quality | thread; but it's not entirely irrelevant. We do need to change to a | low-meat diet, regardless of health issues, because high levels of | meat-production are not sustainable in planetary terms. For some kinds | of meat and fish, this is already reflected in the price; so, without | even thinking much about it, many of us already use animal products as | a treat or a flavouring rather than a major fat and protein source. That does not follow - we could perfectly well adopt the strategy proposed by Swift :-) Sorry, which bit doesn't follow from which other bit? The Dean's approach would still provide only an intermittent supply of meat in most families; and I fear the market would very soon get involved, quickly raising the price of the delicacy to the point where poorer households would be tempted to take the cash and spend it on junk food instead. Indeed, EC regulations would most likely, in effect, divert much of the profit from smaller producers into the hands of larger enterprises benefiting from economies of scale and greater political influence. American companies such as Monsanto would probably use their muscle to gain a high degree of control of all phases of production and processing, so we might find ourselves pretty much back where we started (with a significant loss of table quality into the bargain). Mike. |
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