Hi all,

I'm desperately seeking the following plants:

Christia vespertilionis (Island pea)
Gossypium sturtianum (Sturt's Desert Rose, from down under)
Boswellia serrata (incense tree)

As for the Christia, seeds may be also o.k., but for the latter
ones, I've already tried without success.

I'm situated in Germany (no way to get them here, all three totally
unavailable, sold out, not this year a.s.o.....), therefore a
distributor in another European country would be perfect. Also
cuttings would be great.

Any hint is highly appreciated. I heard that there is a so-called RHS
plantfinder. Can anybody perhaps look it up for me?

Best wishes and thanks in advance
Gaby

--
Mrs. Gaby Chaudry
http://www.gaby.de/bilder/

In article ,
Gaby Chaudry wrote:

Any hint is highly appreciated. I heard that there is a so-called RHS
plantfinder. Can anybody perhaps look it up for me?

It's a book, and could well be available locally. Try a Web search
on Royal Horticultural Society Plant Finder.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , Nick Maclaren
writes
In article ,
Gaby Chaudry wrote:

Any hint is highly appreciated. I heard that there is a so-called RHS
plantfinder. Can anybody perhaps look it up for me?

It's a book, and could well be available locally. Try a Web search
on Royal Horticultural Society Plant Finder.

I thought it was also on the web?
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

Kay,

on Royal Horticultural Society Plant Finder.
I thought it was also on the web?

Yes, I did a Google search and indeed: it is. I just visited the site and
got the following result for all three plants:

RHS PLANT FINDER RESULTS
There are no matches with your search selection,
please enter an alternative plant name

*sigh*...
I randomly entered another plant name to check if the server is working
properly - and got a bunch of results....

Any other ideas?

Best wishes
Gaby

--
Mrs. Gaby Chaudry
http://www.gaby.de/bilder/

On 6/8/04 20:27, in article , "Gaby
Chaudry" wrote:

Hi all,

I'm desperately seeking the following plants:

Christia vespertilionis (Island pea)
Gossypium sturtianum (Sturt's Desert Rose, from down under)
Boswellia serrata (incense tree)

As for the Christia, seeds may be also o.k., but for the latter
ones, I've already tried without success.

I'm situated in Germany (no way to get them here, all three totally
unavailable, sold out, not this year a.s.o.....), therefore a
distributor in another European country would be perfect. Also
cuttings would be great.

Any hint is highly appreciated. I heard that there is a so-called RHS
plantfinder. Can anybody perhaps look it up for me?

Best wishes and thanks in advance
Gaby

The Christia isn't listed in the RHS Plant Finder at all but try this link:
http://www.shop.sunshine-seeds.de/in...vespertilionis
33869.htm

The only Gossypium listed is G herbaceum at Salley Gardens, 32 Lansdowne
Drive, West Bridgford, Nottinghamshire NG! 7FJ. Tel. (0)115 9233878 in the
evenings.
Boswellia isn't in the plantfinder but try a hunt he
http://www.exportbureau.com/agriculture/plantseed.html
And just maybe this as a seed supplier of herbal plants (they're
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)
in USA)
http://www.willowpondherbs.com/shed/seedlist.html

"Gaby Chaudry" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I'm desperately seeking the following plants:

Christia vespertilionis (Island pea)
Gossypium sturtianum (Sturt's Desert Rose, from down under)
Boswellia serrata (incense tree)

As for the Christia, seeds may be also o.k., but for the latter
ones, I've already tried without success.

I'm situated in Germany (no way to get them here, all three totally
unavailable, sold out, not this year a.s.o.....), therefore a
distributor in another European country would be perfect. Also
cuttings would be great.

Any hint is highly appreciated. I heard that there is a so-called RHS
plantfinder. Can anybody perhaps look it up for me?

This is what you want....
http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantfinder.asp

Not that it's much help in this case.

--
Regards
Bob
in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK

"Gaby Chaudry" wrote in message
...
Kay,

on Royal Horticultural Society Plant Finder.
I thought it was also on the web?

Yes, I did a Google search and indeed: it is. I just visited the
site and
got the following result for all three plants:

RHS PLANT FINDER RESULTS
There are no matches with your search selection,
please enter an alternative plant name

*sigh*...
I randomly entered another plant name to check if the server is
working
properly - and got a bunch of results....

Any other ideas?

The RHS plantfinder is on the net. I use it quite regularly. The URL
is

http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantfinder.asp

It is possible that you might have to be a member of the RHS to have
access to it, but give it a try.

Franz

Franz,

The RHS plantfinder is on the net. I use it quite regularly. The URL
is

http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantfinder.asp

That's exactly where I have been and where I got the bad results....

It is possible that you might have to be a member of the RHS to have
access to it, but give it a try.

This can't be - otherwise I would have got no result with *any* search.

Bye, Gaby

--
Mrs. Gaby Chaudry
http://www.gaby.de/bilder/

Sacha,

The Christia isn't listed in the RHS Plant Finder at all but try this
link:

http://www.shop.sunshine-seeds.de/in...vespertilionis
33869.htm

It's sold out there :-(
I also heard that they sell old seeds that don't germinate.... O.K. For
Christia it shouldn't be a problem if they are old, as Leguminosae germinate
easily and also after many years.
But be careful if you're planning to buy seeds from her....

The only Gossypium listed is G herbaceum at Salley Gardens, 32 Lansdowne
Drive, West Bridgford, Nottinghamshire NG! 7FJ. Tel. (0)115 9233878 in
the
evenings.

This is the "normal" Gossypium, the cotton plant. It's quite different to
sturtianum.

Boswellia isn't in the plantfinder but try a hunt he
http://www.exportbureau.com/agriculture/plantseed.html

Thanks, but these are only seeds. Growing Boswellia from seeds is nearly
impossible.
That's the main problem :-((

Anyway, thanks a bunch for your efforts!!

(remove the weeds to email me)

I really like this one :-))

Bye, Gaby

--
Mrs. Gaby Chaudry
http://www.gaby.de/bilder/

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 21:27:40 +0200, "Gaby Chaudry"
wrote:

I'm desperately seeking the following plants:

Christia vespertilionis (Island pea)
Gossypium sturtianum (Sturt's Desert Rose, from down under)
Boswellia serrata (incense tree)

Your problem is that you are looking for plants that are not
particularly easy to cultivate in northern Europe (in the case of
Gossypium sturtianum, it is extremely tricky on account of its desert
origins) and to be honest, of no immense ornamental merit. I keep an
almost constant watch for interesting exotics and have only seen
Christia offered once or twice as growing plants (seeds are
occasionally available) and that was many years ago. I very much
doubt if any are currently grown in nurseries in the UK, although they
may be present in a few specialised collections and botanical gardens.

Gossypium sturtianum requires highly specialised growing conditions
and is exceptionally prone rot unless maintained in a very arid,
sunny, sunny climate. Growing them from seed is fraught with problems
and plants from cuttings are simply unavailable.

Boswellia seed is very, very rarely offered and the tree, apart from
its considerable pharmacological value, holds relatively little
interest to even the most avid plant collector. Native to northern
India through to the southern Arabian peninsula, it prefers hot, dry
sunny climates. Although it will tolerate more moisture than the
Gossypium, it does not grow well in the lower light levels much
further north than mediterranean regions.

Christia (if you can get the seeds) is relatively easy. Soak them in
very hot water and allow to remain in it as it cools for at least 24
hours. Sow in a sharply drained compost and maintain temps of around
26 - 28C. Germination is usually quite rapid. Once the seedlings
have develop their first true leaves, gradually harden them to air
temps of around 21C and gently expose to full light. A good compost
for growing the plants on consists of a mixture of a sterilised loam
based type such as John Innes No2 and horticultural grit in a ratio
of 2:1. Christia needs full sun to develop best colouring and is not
really a very good pot plant for the home, but it can be done.

Dave Poole
Torquay, Coastal South Devon UK
Winter min -2°C. Summer max 34°C.
Growing season: March - November

"Gaby Chaudry" wrote in message
...
Franz,

The RHS plantfinder is on the net. I use it quite regularly.
The URL
is

http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantfinder.asp

That's exactly where I have been and where I got the bad results....

My apologies. I misread your note in a hurry.

It is possible that you might have to be a member of the RHS to
have
access to it, but give it a try.

This can't be - otherwise I would have got no result with *any*
search.

You're right.

Franz

"Gaby Chaudry" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I'm desperately seeking the following plants:

Christia vespertilionis (Island pea)
Gossypium sturtianum (Sturt's Desert Rose, from down under)
Boswellia serrata (incense tree)

As for the Christia, seeds may be also o.k., but for the latter
ones, I've already tried without success.

I'm situated in Germany (no way to get them here, all three totally
unavailable, sold out, not this year a.s.o.....), therefore a
distributor in another European country would be perfect. Also
cuttings would be great.

Any hint is highly appreciated. I heard that there is a so-called RHS
plantfinder. Can anybody perhaps look it up for me?

Best wishes and thanks in advance
Gaby
Mrs. Gaby Chaudry
http://www.gaby.de/bilder/


Hi Gaby,

I can't help you with your search for seeds/plants, but I'd just like to
compliment you on the amazing plants etc on your small balcony !!!
Just shows what can be done in a small space :~))

PS liked the computer "museum" too.
Jenny
http://members.rott.chello.nl/ldejag...ex.welcome.htm

Dave,

first of all thanks a bunch for your comprehensive and knowledgeable reply!

Your problem is that you are looking for plants that are not
particularly easy to cultivate in northern Europe (in the case of
Gossypium sturtianum, it is extremely tricky on account of its desert
origins) and to be honest, of no immense ornamental merit.

Well, it's more the unusual than the ornamental that tempts me..
Of course I know that the plants I'm looking for are not "easy to grow
backyard gardener plants", but rather ones that bear a high challenge.

almost constant watch for interesting exotics and have only seen
Christia offered once or twice as growing plants (seeds are
occasionally available) and that was many years ago.

It seems that they are quite common in Eastern Asia, mostly Japan. At least
all the Google results I got where from this region.

Gossypium sturtianum requires highly specialised growing conditions
and is exceptionally prone rot unless maintained in a very arid,
sunny, sunny climate. Growing them from seed is fraught with problems
and plants from cuttings are simply unavailable.

Aren't there really no collectors at all in Europe that have one??

Boswellia seed is very, very rarely offered

I already got Boswellia seeds, but they don't germinate. I heard that they
are fertile for only 6 or 8 weeks after harvesting. The seeds you normally
get are much older.

interest to even the most avid plant collector. Native to northern
India through to the southern Arabian peninsula, it prefers hot, dry
sunny climates. Although it will tolerate more moisture than the
Gossypium, it does not grow well in the lower light levels much
further north than mediterranean regions.

I thought that it might need similar conditions as Adenium, originating from
the same region and climate. Is this true?

Christia (if you can get the seeds) is relatively easy. Soak them in
very hot water and allow to remain in it as it cools for at least 24
hours.

Sounds like it behaves like most other Leguminosae. Then it's really easy.
Still, I'm missing a source for the seeds. The only two German dealers that
have them in their catalogue, can't supply them this year. Shall I be more
patient??

Anyway, if you ever come across one of these plants, please drop me a line.
Btw, Which plants do you have in your collection?

Best wishes
Gaby

--
Mrs. Gaby Chaudry
http://www.gaby.de/bilder/

Jenny,

I can't help you with your search for seeds/plants, but I'd just like to
compliment you on the amazing plants etc on your small balcony !!!

Thanks! :-D

Just shows what can be done in a small space :~))

Ah, imagine that, in addition, I have about the same amount of plants
inside - in my living room, my kitchen and the bedroom.... ;-))

PS liked the computer "museum" too.

This was my first hobby, before I came to plants.... Now they have to divide
the space among each others .. No, not really: the computers have their own
room, therefore there's not much trouble... ;-) O.K., sometimes I have to
keep the Jasmine from growing into the computer room window (from
outside)... It is growing so fast, that I'm afraid I have to cut some
*meters* when the cold season comes and it has to move inside again...
(will produce a couple of cuttings....)

Best wishes from Munich
Gaby

--
Mrs. Gaby Chaudry
http://www.gaby.de/bilder/

Jenny,

I forgot to mention that I just added some recent pictures to my homepage:

http://www.gaby.de/bilder/070804/070804.htm

And btw: your garden in the sky is *great*!!

Best wishes
Gaby

--
Mrs. Gaby Chaudry
http://www.gaby.de/bilder/