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Relief from insect stings
I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is
acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? Graham |
"Graham Dixon" wrote in message ... I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? Graham Buy 'wasp-eze'. -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 10:29:44 +0000 (UTC), "Graham Dixon"
wrote: I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? Graham Some of us will remember theRickets "blue bags" which our mothers and grandmothers used to make washing whiter. We had this "aide memoire": Bee sting; Blue bag and Wasp; Vinegar so I suppose equally Bee;Bicarb. I think the remedy neutralises the sting, therefore the bee sting is acid and needs bicarb and vice versa. Incidentally, if you don't know which insect has stung, the wasp withdraws its sting, the bee leaves the sting and poison sac behind. Pam in Bristol |
A wasp sting is formic acid
"Graham Dixon" wrote in message ... I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? Graham |
On 15/8/04 11:29, in article , "Graham
Dixon" wrote: I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? With a bee sting take it out immediately by scraping it off with a fingernail - never use tweezers which will push the poison further into the body. Take a cut raw onion or clove of garlic and rub it onto the affected area. Bee stings are acid. Bathe the affected area in bicarbonate of soda. Wasp stings are alkali. Bathe the affected area in vinegar. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
Pam Moore wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 10:29:44 +0000 (UTC), "Graham Dixon" wrote: I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? Graham Snip withdraws its sting, the bee leaves the sting and poison sac behind. Pam in Bristol Not strictly accurate. The wasp sting is smooth like a needle, so if you brush it off away it goes no problems. A bee sting is a little like a corkscrew, so brushing it off tears the sting from the bee (which dies) leaving the sting in your flesh. As a child my father, who kept bees, taught me that IF you can control yourself the bee will work its sting out by a circling motion. Having been stung on several occasions and watching the bee I can verify this. The reaction is far less . -- Please do not reply by Email, as all emails to this address are automatically deleted. |
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:37:12 +0000 (UTC), Rodders wrote:
A wasp sting is formic acid I think you're confusing ants with bees and wasps. Ant stings are formic acid (the very word "formic" being derived from the Latin for "ant"); and they may be bites rather than proper stings. Formic acid is a very simple compound, chemically speaking. Bee (and afaik wasp) stings contain mixtures of kinins, fairly short-chain proteins with powerful physiological effects. There may be other ingredients as well. Kinins cause intense pain, swelling, and so on. That they're proteins explains why some people become allergic, as allergies are almost entirely in response to proteins, not simple substances like formic acid. [Working from memory and happy to be corrected, but I'm sure I've go that big picture right.] -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada [change "atlantic" to "pacific" and "invalid" to "net" to reply by email] |
Be very careful with the Bicarb as two much two often can and does remove
the skin, be warned! ......................Leslie "Sacha" wrote in message k... On 15/8/04 11:29, in article , "Graham Dixon" wrote: I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? With a bee sting take it out immediately by scraping it off with a fingernail - never use tweezers which will push the poison further into the body. Take a cut raw onion or clove of garlic and rub it onto the affected area. Bee stings are acid. Bathe the affected area in bicarbonate of soda. Wasp stings are alkali. Bathe the affected area in vinegar. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
In article , Graham Dixon
writes I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? Wasp is alkaline so you need vinegar; bee and ant you need bicarb of soda. But the other day I caught a wasp down the back of my dress, and I found antihistamine cream worked even better ;-) -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
In article , Rodders
writes A wasp sting is formic acid No, that's ant. A wasp sting is most definitely alkaline. BTW, please don't top post - it messes the order of the replies. The convention in this ng is to bottom post. "Graham Dixon" wrote in message ... I remember reading - some years ago - about bee & wasp stings - On sting is acid and the other alkaline so the treatment for relief is vinegar for the alkaline sting or bicarbonate of soda for the acid sting. I can't remember which is which (probably something to do with my age) does anyone know? Graham -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:41:40 +0100, Jan Jansen wrote:
Be very careful with the Bicarb as two much two often can and does remove the skin, be warned! Are you sure your not mixing up your sodas? I can believe the above for washing soda or caustic soda but not bicarbonate. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
On 16/8/04 9:14, in article ,
"Martin" wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:53:31 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 15/8/04 19:17, in article , "Rodger Whitlock" wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:37:12 +0000 (UTC), Rodders wrote: A wasp sting is formic acid I think you're confusing ants with bees and wasps. Ant stings are formic acid (the very word "formic" being derived from the Latin for "ant"); and they may be bites rather than proper stings. Formic acid is a very simple compound, chemically speaking. snip I wonder if the first syllable caused the confusion. Don't bee stings contain formaldehyde? Apparently not http://www.insectstings.co.uk/bstings.html More of a Dr Jeckel than a formal de Hyde? :-) Now I have this inner vision of lots and lots of little bees in evening gowns! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:12:22 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 16/8/04 9:14, in article , "Martin" wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:53:31 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 15/8/04 19:17, in article , "Rodger Whitlock" wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:37:12 +0000 (UTC), Rodders wrote: A wasp sting is formic acid I think you're confusing ants with bees and wasps. Ant stings are formic acid (the very word "formic" being derived from the Latin for "ant"); and they may be bites rather than proper stings. Formic acid is a very simple compound, chemically speaking. snip I wonder if the first syllable caused the confusion. Don't bee stings contain formaldehyde? Apparently not http://www.insectstings.co.uk/bstings.html More of a Dr Jeckel than a formal de Hyde? :-) Now I have this inner vision of lots and lots of little bees in evening gowns! Supping gin glasses filled with preserving fluid. And an olive. -- Tim C. |
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:33:30 +0100, Janet Baraclough.. wrote:
From my school Biology teacher ; "two W's; Wasp + Winegar". She was probably German. ;-) -- Tim C. |
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