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Old 19-08-2004, 12:30 PM
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"Franz Heymann" writes:
| "marie" wrote in message
| ...
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| I now know the weedkiller is called Touche.
| It's 2 main ingredients are GLYPHOSATE and DIURON.
| The council man said it was a contact herbicide, yet the rep of the
| maker said it was contact as well as systemic herbicide.
|
| Your council man does not know his brass from his oboe.
| There is plenty of reading matter on the web which makes it quite
| plain that glyphosate is a translocating herbicide.

However, (to a first approximation) glyphosate is not absorbed by
roots and does not transfer through soil. Diuron does both.

They were bullshitting, to try to avoid responsibility.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 19-08-2004, 10:58 PM
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Thanks again for the replies and information.
If it's ok i'd like to keep this thread going as long as possible, in order to keep people updated on the present situation.
Right now, i am leaning towards sending off samples for analysis, i think it might be money well spent.
I will post any developments here.

Thanks again.
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Old 24-08-2004, 11:56 AM
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"Brian Watson" wrote in message
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"marie" wrote in message
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Just for my own peace of mind i took the liberty of recording this
conversation today. I did not tell them i was recording it.


I don't believe taped conversations are admissable in court.

Transcripts MAY
be.

Photos certainly are admissable.


******
Please do not say "certainly!". I was charged with parking my car
"half-on" a smashed-up kerb next to a high fence enclosing major
building works so thereby I was impeding the passage of foot passengers.
I pleaded that not only was the old pavement kerb out of use and broken
up, but I presented photographs which showed three people walking
abreast through the wide gap between car and fence, thereby clearly
showing that there was plenty of room to march an Army through the gap.
Their ruling was that since photographs can be manipulated they are not
acceptable in Courts of Law.
Those bar stewards found me guilty and fined me 40 quid.
Doug.
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Old 24-08-2004, 01:22 PM
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"marie" wrote in message
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Nick Maclaren Wrote:
In article ,
"Franz Heymann" writes:
| "marie"
wrote in message
| ...
|
| I now know the weedkiller is called Touche.
| It's 2 main ingredients are GLYPHOSATE and DIURON.
| The council man said it was a contact herbicide, yet the rep of

the
| maker said it was contact as well as systemic herbicide.
|
| Your council man does not know his brass from his oboe.
| There is plenty of reading matter on the web which makes it quite
| plain that glyphosate is a translocating herbicide.

However, (to a first approximation) glyphosate is not absorbed by
roots and does not transfer through soil. Diuron does both.

They were bullshitting, to try to avoid responsibility.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Thanks again for the replies and information.
If it's ok i'd like to keep this thread going as long as possible, in
order to keep people updated on the present situation.
Right now, i am leaning towards sending off samples for analysis, i
think it might be money well spent.
I will post any developments here.

Thanks again.
marie


******
marie!.
You may remember me from way back when we occasionally crossed swords
in Alt politics.
(All in fun, of course! - oh yes!, - honest!.)
I have good friendly advice for you.
Do your best to help the conifers but bite the bullet by keeping away
from any kind of litigation, especially with Public Bodies and worse
still, legal vultures.
It's tough to do, but do it and sleep your normal eight hours in bed
without the problem constantly keeping you lying awake at five in the
morning with you unable to get it out of your mind.
It's a bitter pill to swallow, but do it. You will get bouts of inner
rage now and then, but try to become calm in mind, and you will soon
stay calm. I promise you, - because I have recently had to do just
that.
Corporation Jobsworthies have developed well-tried techniques to
preserve their unsackable jobs against any foolish Public scrutiny, and
two words epitomise their solid defence barrier.
Silence is their assegai and pig-ignorance their spear. They simply
ignore your Solicitors letters and just refuse to answer.
They can deny you your Human Rights and can libel you in print without
ever having met you.
My status in the Community, my honesty, my clean-living ways and my
character have recently been impugned. Having properly raised two
families in impeccable fashion I now have a file of 24 papers
concerning the matter and the Solicitor wants me to brief Counsel in a
Firm who specialise . in Manchester.
Keep the pot a-boiling!. It's Jobs for the boys!, and Hey! keep the
money rolling in, lads!.
I have just written a cheque for 300 quid and told them to stuff it.
My case was a winner, the miscreants hadn't a leg to stand on but once
the Great Game started with the legal crooks briefed it soon got out of
hand without any progress being made. - As usual.
I should have known better.

Some years ago I brought a case against a rogue car repairer who tried
to charge me 1500 quid for a minor repair. The same Solicitor Firm
mentioned above took a year and a half dillying and dallying so I sacked
them and took on the case as a L.I.P. (Litigant in Person.) Got the
case before the Court in three weeks and no one on the opposite side
turned up to defend . I was awarded 1000 quid and costs and it broke the
finances of the repairer who went bankrupt, lost his mind, attempted
suicide and finished up in a Happy Farm.
I take no pleasure from that, because I sat for many years alongside his
father in a swing band.
Doug.











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Old 24-08-2004, 03:00 PM
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Kay wrote in news:5ZjvWhAZFFJBFwB
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This council is renowned for not admitting to anything they do wrong.

I don't know about the chance of success in the small claims court, but
clearly atm they are hoping that you will just give up.

Pity it's not just before local elections. Well motivated councillors
can sometimes achieve miracles.



Local newspapers can do a great deal to focus the attention of said
councillors, and are usually desperate for stories. Give them a ring and
see if they will print a photo of you standing in front of the damage.

Victoria
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Old 24-08-2004, 06:29 PM
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In article , Victoria
Clare writes
Kay wrote in news:5ZjvWhAZFFJBFwB
:

This council is renowned for not admitting to anything they do wrong.

I don't know about the chance of success in the small claims court, but
clearly atm they are hoping that you will just give up.

Pity it's not just before local elections. Well motivated councillors
can sometimes achieve miracles.



Local newspapers can do a great deal to focus the attention of said
councillors, and are usually desperate for stories. Give them a ring and
see if they will print a photo of you standing in front of the damage.

The procedure is:

1. Ring press, tell them you have story and councillor (1) will be
available for photo

2. Ring councillor and tell them press will be on hand for photo ;-)


(1) And if you're lucky enough to have a split ward, ring both (or all
3) councillors in turn and tell them that their opponent will be there
:-)
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Kay
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Old 24-08-2004, 11:12 PM
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"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article ,

Victoria
Clare writes
Kay wrote in news:5ZjvWhAZFFJBFwB
:

This council is renowned for not admitting to anything they do

wrong.

I don't know about the chance of success in the small claims

court, but
clearly atm they are hoping that you will just give up.

Pity it's not just before local elections. Well motivated

councillors
can sometimes achieve miracles.



Local newspapers can do a great deal to focus the attention of said
councillors, and are usually desperate for stories. Give them a

ring and
see if they will print a photo of you standing in front of the

damage.

The procedure is:

1. Ring press, tell them you have story and councillor (1) will be
available for photo

2. Ring councillor and tell them press will be on hand for photo ;-)


(1) And if you're lucky enough to have a split ward, ring both (or

all
3) councillors in turn and tell them that their opponent will be

there
:-)


Marie,
Please, please don't contemplate legal action. You will be the loser.
Please follow Kay's suggestion and keep us posted.

Franz


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