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Old 24-08-2004, 01:28 AM
Bob Black
 
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I'm trying to grow some bindweed for the purposes of
laying an ardivulent trestle or trellis structure.
Any (sensible) suggestions as to how I might achieve this?

I have a rather small garden so a convactulated approach will
probably be required.

I know it's a very borderline plant in the UK, because it needs hot
summers to ripen its wood for the winter, and does not like
waterlogging but I can 'foster' this situation for now at least.


Thanks, Bob


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Old 24-08-2004, 08:03 AM
Alan Gould
 
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I'm trying to grow some bindweed for the purposes of
laying an ardivulent trestle or trellis structure.
Any (sensible) suggestions as to how I might achieve this?

I have a rather small garden so a convactulated approach will
probably be required.

I know it's a very borderline plant in the UK, because it needs hot
summers to ripen its wood for the winter, and does not like
waterlogging but I can 'foster' this situation for now at least.

Bindweed is a plant in the convolvulus family. In its natural form it is
invasive and difficult to control, thus it is not encouraged by
gardeners. There are cultivated varieties of convolvulus though which
would do the job very well. Have a look at some online catalogues for
full details, e.g. www.thompson-morgan.com www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk etc.
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Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.
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Old 24-08-2004, 09:01 AM
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"Bob Black" wrote in message
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I'm trying to grow some bindweed for the purposes of
laying an ardivulent trestle or trellis structure.
Any (sensible) suggestions as to how I might achieve this?

I have a rather small garden so a convactulated approach will
probably be required.

I know it's a very borderline plant in the UK, because it needs hot
summers to ripen its wood for the winter, and does not like
waterlogging but I can 'foster' this situation for now at least.


Thanks, Bob


The above ground stems only occasionally go through the winter but with
protection will eventually become woody, What is the effect you are hoping
to achieve? there must be better ways of achieving it than bindweed!

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Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)


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Old 24-08-2004, 03:51 PM
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"Alan Gould" wrote in message
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In article , Bob Black
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I'm trying to grow some bindweed for the purposes of
laying an ardivulent trestle or trellis structure.
Any (sensible) suggestions as to how I might achieve this?

I have a rather small garden so a convactulated approach will
probably be required.

I know it's a very borderline plant in the UK, because it needs hot
summers to ripen its wood for the winter, and does not like
waterlogging but I can 'foster' this situation for now at least.

Bindweed is a plant in the convolvulus family. In its natural form it is
invasive and difficult to control, thus it is not encouraged by
gardeners.


It isn't encouraged by *most* gardeners :-) but I can say that, as a
gardener, I have encouraged it in one part of my garden quite nicely. It is
contained - or should I say it's roots are contained - in earth in a
concrete block wall. Thus the little beast can't go anywhere under the
ground where I can't see it. I have known of others who have encouraged it
also - one friend has it growing in on a pot outside his window which then
goes though a small non paned section of the window into his flat to form a
garland effect around the inside of the window. What he's going to do come
the cold weather I'm not sure - I'm sure I've seen the remains of bindweed
plants huddling together in the winter ? - but it looks quite nice as it
goes.


There are cultivated varieties of convolvulus though which
would do the job very well. Have a look at some online catalogues for
full details, e.g. www.thompson-morgan.com www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk etc.



Perhaps the OP really does want bindweed though ?

For the OP - when I wanted my bindweed in the wall I had dug out the
entirety of my garden (I was making my garden at the time from "unplowed
field" stage) where there was plenty of it. I took some of those roots -
Devil's Guts I know them as - and chucked 'em in the holes in the wall with
some muck (this was last year in the early winter as I recall). And now I
have a nice green garland of bindweed growing though I don't think anything
happened last year through the summer - it just sat dormant I guess until
this year when it went nuts.
I keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't get above its station and
invade anything else. I do in fact train it up the wall and around a gate
post. For a fast growing and (in theory) flowering plant costing absolutely
nothing I reckon it's a hit with me. :-) And insects like it, which is
always a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

However, the friend with the inside garland tells me that I won't get
flowers on this plant as you don't get flowers from root grown bindweed
plants, only from seed grown plants. So he says - I've no idea whether this
is true or not. I'm not sure how this would work in the long run because
surely in order the thrive and possibly reproduce the plant would want to
put out flowers ? but I do know that so far this year there have been no
flowers on it.

Hope that helps abit.


Rachael


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Old 24-08-2004, 11:54 PM
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:28:59 +0000 (UTC), "Bob Black"
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I'm trying to grow some bindweed for the purposes of
laying an ardivulent trestle or trellis structure.
Any (sensible) suggestions as to how I might achieve this?


I have no trouble growing bindweed!

Pam in Bristol


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Old 25-08-2004, 01:41 PM
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"Bob Black" wrote in message
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I'm trying to grow some bindweed for the purposes of
laying an ardivulent trestle or trellis structure.
Any (sensible) suggestions as to how I might achieve this?

I have a rather small garden so a convactulated approach will
probably be required.

I know it's a very borderline plant in the UK, because it needs hot
summers to ripen its wood for the winter, and does not like
waterlogging but I can 'foster' this situation for now at least.

Thanks, Bob

********
Now listen - Bob!. You sit down with a nice cuppa tea and take your
punishment like a man.
How dare you mention the dread word, er, .... "Conv...." - No! I can't
bring myself to say it!
One half of an inch of a root of that terrible (and poisonous flowers)
weed will invade your garden like an underground spiders web but thicker
and much more rampant, with a six inches deep weed-root net under your
soil.
For years I have battled the stuff invading my north side hedge from the
Neighbours from Hell thugs next door where the grass and weeds are
half-way up the windows, - and it is even showing itself across the lawn
and on the wall of the south side now. That's about fifteen paces
distance.
Recant at once!. Don sack-cloth and ashes, and to be on the safe side
tell your beads, and promise you won't defile your plot - and this
staid Newsgroup with heresy ever again.
Now- That's thee tellt off!.
To cover my six-foot high fence against the scum's foul language I have
two climbing plants in full bloom at the top, each with a second year
spread of twelve yards.
I can't find it in the Book but its name is Vitalba and I think it
belongs in the climbing Clematis class of plants. It is in full flower
at the moment. They are in small 'racemes' shape, each with its own
spread of small white flowers. It keeps its roots to itself.
Wouldn't recommend it - Too rampant, it's taken over and is masking my
other large flowered clematis.
BTW, 1. Wot's 'Ardivalent' and 'Convactulated'? - not in the N.Ox.
English Dict.
2. How are the P.Thistles coming along these days?. Scored
any goals last Season?.
Cheers!.
Doug.
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