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HI, I am sorry that a stupid mistake, by myself has caused such disharmony
within this ng. I hope people have vented all their animosity towards each
other and can now get on with posts to do with gardening, which I am sure
many novices like myself find interesting and helpful. I hope one day when
I need particular advice I can call on the ng(without pics.) and find a
friendly and helpful bunch of gardeners ready to reply, until then Happy
Gardening to you all. Jakell

"jakell" wrote in message
.uk...
HI, I am sorry that a stupid mistake, by myself has caused such disharmony
within this ng. I hope people have vented all their animosity towards
each
other and can now get on with posts to do with gardening, which I am sure
many novices like myself find interesting and helpful. I hope one day
when
I need particular advice I can call on the ng(without pics.) and find a
friendly and helpful bunch of gardeners ready to reply, until then Happy
Gardening to you all. Jakell


Don't worry too much Jakell, everyone makes the occasional mistake and I'm
sure more people would like to vent their spleens on the idiots who are
continually posting rubbish to half the newsgroups out there. As for
disharmony within this newsgroup, that is inevitable, just don't mention,
cats, foxes, gardening outside the UK, or any one of numerous other topics
which spin off really quite daft troll wars.

Duncan

"D Russell" wrote in message
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As for
disharmony within this newsgroup, that is inevitable, just don't mention

... the War.



;-)


Rachael

HI, I am sorry that a stupid mistake, by myself has caused such disharmony
within this ng.

Anyone who hasn't made a mistake, hasn't done anything.

I hope people have vented all their animosity towards each
other and can now get on with posts to do with gardening, which I am sure
many novices like myself find interesting and helpful.

The wealth of information in this newsgroup, as far greater, and in general
terms and under 'normal' circumstances, is far greater than can be read from
the magazines on the newsracks.

I hope one day when
I need particular advice I can call on the ng(without pics.) and find a
friendly and helpful bunch of gardeners ready to reply, until then Happy
Gardening to you all.

You most certainly will!! I am not a 'plant' gardener, although I am
learning a lot from what is posted here and information relayed to my wife
who is an avid gardener. BUT, as you have seen on this newsgroup, there are
the 'old hands' who 'own' the newsgroup and act as net nannies. They are far
more fortunate than the likes of you and me, in that they were born with the
information and didn't have to learn it:-((


Mike


Jakell

"jakell" wrote in message o.uk...
HI, I am sorry that a stupid mistake, by myself has caused such disharmony
within this ng. I hope people have vented all their animosity towards each
other and can now get on with posts to do with gardening, which I am sure
many novices like myself find interesting and helpful. I hope one day when
I need particular advice I can call on the ng(without pics.) and find a
friendly and helpful bunch of gardeners ready to reply, until then Happy
Gardening to you all. Jakell

Jakell

Its a two way street, so please feel free to pop in and give advice,
chew the fat ... whatever. I have found thats its a case of the more
you put in the more yoou get out.

Phil

On 1/9/04 5:28 pm, in article , "Mike"
wrote:

snip BUT, as you have seen on this newsgroup, there are
the 'old hands' who 'own' the newsgroup and act as net nannies. They are far
more fortunate than the likes of you and me, in that they were born with the
information and didn't have to learn it:-((


What is unfortunate, Mike is that you forget to mention here that those you
decry as 'net nannies' are those of us who object strongly to your bullying
of others - some of whom have now left the group for good and who *were*
gardeners - your attempts (with those of others) continuously to disrupt
this group, leading again to the loss of some members, your allying yourself
with all manner of trolls if they will assist you in the former endeavour,
and your overall rudeness to those who object to your vileness. And I
haven't even mentioned your boastfulness about your past business
endeavours. "I had a factory with 23 people" - so useful to someone
starting out as a gardener on his own.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

. As for
disharmony within this newsgroup, that is inevitable, just don't mention,
cats, foxes, gardening outside the UK, or any one of numerous other topics
which spin off really quite daft troll wars.


Hi all,

What's wrong with gardening outside the UK? Just curious... s

Hanne in Denmark.

"Hanne Bech-Jensen" wrote in message
...

. As for
disharmony within this newsgroup, that is inevitable, just don't
mention,
cats, foxes, gardening outside the UK, or any one of numerous
other topics
which spin off really quite daft troll wars.


Hi all,

What's wrong with gardening outside the UK? Just curious... s

Not wrong, just different.
Climate, weather, availability of equipment, furniture, tools,
chemicals and plants, allottment regulations..............
It would for example be futile for someone in India to tell us how to
cultivate rice in Scotland

Franz

What a pity.
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What a pity, that in your latest tirade, you very conveniently chose to drop
the main part of the paragraph on the staff I had.
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What a pity you missed out on that I couldn't do the work without them and
that I thanked them when they went home at night..
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What a pity that you didn't pick up on the fact that even before I started
on my own and worked in industry, I thanked the staff I had in my
department.
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What a pity
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Never mind, whilst you are always very keen to critisize me no matter what I
do, the main poster in that article, did come back and thank me and
announced she was going to print off the advice I gave.
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Keep your eyes peeled Sacha, no doubt there will be something else to have a
go at me about. How about this posting?
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Your comments below please.
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Mike
*Thoughts* "I wonder why she doesn't killfile me?"

Franz wrote "....Not wrong, just different.
Climate, weather, availability of equipment, furniture, tools,
chemicals and plants, allottment regulations..............
It would for example be futile for someone in India to tell us how to
cultivate rice in Scotland ....."

Now if it had been rice in Ireland.....after all they have had "Paddy
fields" for generations.

What people here seem to forget is that several of our members gave
gardened/are gardening in other countries, and many parts of the world have
a climate similar to our own.

SORRY.. We don't have a climate, just weather.
Lets keep having questions from all over , help to expand our knowledge
base. After all we may not grow acres of Pineapples or bananas but many of
us have a plant or two of them.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Not if he knows how to cultivate rice in Scotland.
--
Martin


Would they be planted in Jock Fields as opposed to Paddy Fields if they were
grown in Ireland?

In article , David Hill david@abacusn
urseries.freeserve.co.uk writes

SORRY.. We don't have a climate, just weather.
Lets keep having questions from all over , help to expand our knowledge
base. After all we may not grow acres of Pineapples or bananas but many of
us have a plant or two of them.

Agreed. But lets please remember that this ng is about gardening in the
UK, so that if you are talking about growing bananas outdoors, you
remember to explain where you are and what *your* climate is like, so
some inexperienced beginner doesn't assume that his banana will be OK
outdoors in the UK.

If you want a world-wide gardening ng, rec.gardens is available.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"David Hill" wrote in message
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Franz wrote "....Not wrong, just different.
Climate, weather, availability of equipment, furniture, tools,
chemicals and plants, allottment regulations..............
It would for example be futile for someone in India to tell us how to
cultivate rice in Scotland ....."

Now if it had been rice in Ireland.....after all they have had "Paddy
fields" for generations.

And given the rain last month at times rice might have been a viable crop
for me.


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

Kay wrote ".........If you want a world-wide gardening ng, rec.gardens is
available....."

rec.gardens is world wide if you consider North America to be the world.
Those posting from outside this area frequently get sarcastic comments and
being told that rec.gardens is for America only.
I for one like to think that in this group we are more tolerant, and
prepared to share our knowledge with anyone who wants it.
By the way some varieties of Banana are capable of being grown outdoors in
parts of the UK.
I just wish that people posting questions would give an idea of their
location, be it in the UK or beyond.
Finally, I was doing a sale a couple of weeks ago and a young couple were
looking at some of my plants.
She turned to him and said "Shall we get some plants for the garden?"
"Don't you remember" he said "Mam bought us 4 last year".


--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Baraclough, where have you been????????????

On 2/9/04 7:58 am, in article , "Mike"
wrote:

What a pity.
.
.
.
What a pity, that in your latest tirade, you very conveniently chose to drop
the main part of the paragraph on the staff I had.
.
.
.
.

What a pity you missed out on that I couldn't do the work without them and
that I thanked them when they went home at night..
.
.
.
.
.
What a pity that you didn't pick up on the fact that even before I started
on my own and worked in industry, I thanked the staff I had in my
department.
.
.
.
.
.
What a pity
.
.
.
.
.

Never mind, whilst you are always very keen to critisize me no matter what I
do, the main poster in that article, did come back and thank me and
announced she was going to print off the advice I gave.

I'm sure your needy little ego is throbbing with gratitude.
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Keep your eyes peeled Sacha, no doubt there will be something else to have a
go at me about. How about this posting?

What - MORE about YOU and how WONDERFUL you are and how you know EVERYTHING
about running a business etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.? And how if you want to
advertise your wares off topic and encourage others to wreck this group,
you'll do it? No thanks. You've hit my level-of-boredom nerve already this
week.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

In article , David Hill david@abacus
nurseries.freeserve.co.uk writes
Kay wrote ".........If you want a world-wide gardening ng, rec.gardens is
available....."

rec.gardens is world wide if you consider North America to be the world.
Those posting from outside this area frequently get sarcastic comments and
being told that rec.gardens is for America only.

And that is what is likely to happen if we change the charter of urg to
make it world wide - UK gardening will be swamped by the numerically
largest group of internet posters.

I for one like to think that in this group we are more tolerant, and
prepared to share our knowledge with anyone who wants it.

If by that you mean 'our knowledge of gardening that is relevant to UK
conditions' I agree wholeheartedly, and I think it is evident that we
are very willing to share our knowledge.

There has never been an issue about people posting from outside the UK.
They are very welcome.


By the way some varieties of Banana are capable of being grown outdoors in
parts of the UK.

Yes, I know that, and it is irrelevant to the point I am making, which
is that growing methods on, say, the Windward Is are supremely
misleading to gardeners in the UK unless the post has been tailored to
UK conditions by giving enough information for the UK gardener to see
where his conditions are different.

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

On 1/9/04 11:26 pm, in article , "Hanne
Bech-Jensen" wrote:

snip


Hi all,

What's wrong with gardening outside the UK? Just curious... s

Hanne in Denmark.


Nothing at all but this is a uk specific group. We have welcome
contributors from abroad but most have climates similar to parts of the UK.
Our climate is so variable within a small area, length of sun hours/rain
hours/hot/cold temps. etc. so different to other places that it isn't much
use giving us advice from many foreign countries or us giving it to others
from many foreign countries. It just won't be any use. Even within UK you
will often see that contributors here are asked where they live, because the
climate and conditions in e.g. Parts of Yorkshire will be very different to
those in parts of Devonshire.

--

Sacha

U¿ytkownik "Kay" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
...

| But lets please remember that this ng is about gardening in the
| UK, so that if you are talking about growing bananas outdoors, you
| remember to explain where you are and what *your* climate is like, so
| some inexperienced beginner doesn't assume that his banana will be OK
| outdoors in the UK.
|
| If you want a world-wide gardening ng, rec.gardens is available.

I've been reading both ngs for some time and yours is far more interesting,
and people seem to be more helpful and considerate as well.

R.

In article , Franz Heymann
writes
It would for example be futile for someone in India to tell us how to
cultivate rice in Scotland

That is true but it is an extreme and unlikely example. Many plants as
exotic as rice are grown in UK and advice on their native culture can be
very helpful for gardeners here wishing to try them. UK has an averagely
temperate weather pattern with wide local variations. Many other parts
of the world have sufficiently similar weather patterns for
horticultural advice from this group to be welcome outside UK. In either
case, UK gardening is being discussed. What's wrong with that in urg?
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

"Mike" wrote in message
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[snip]

Let's face it.you are not much of a poet either.

Franz

Let's face it.you are not much of a poet either.

Franz


You are cordially invited to post ANY contribution I have ever made, to any
newsgroups, where I have proclaimed to be a poet. Very little poetry appeals
to me, I would rather have good music thank you.

I look forward to your response. Start searching. Hope you have plenty of
time.

Mike

In article , Mike
writes
BUT, as you have seen on this newsgroup, there are
the 'old hands' who 'own' the newsgroup and act as net nannies. They are far
more fortunate than the likes of you and me, in that they were born with the
information and didn't have to learn it

Well I've only been looking in for a few months and I see some regular
posters posting useful information and responding to questions from new
and old alike. In addition to that, I see a few comments on posting
etiquette - the "rules" (written and unwritten) for all - that keep such
a group readable and enjoyable. Believe me, where they aren't adhered
to, groups quickly become very difficult to read and next to useless as
far as information goes.

I've also seen you making this comment a number of times. Sufficiently
often for someone to jump to the conclusion that you either you are
being picked on or that you might have a a finely chopped piece of
solanum-tuberosum on your shoulder. (Not sure which variety).

--
regards andyw