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Pam Moore 15-09-2004 04:44 PM

Clematis seeds
 
Some of you may remember that earlier in the year I asked a question
about a clematis in a friend's garden that you decided was a viticella
species; small blue bells on quite a prolific climber. My "must have"
plant.
I tried cuttings, and to my shame, none took. I should have kept some
indoors. Is it too late to do cuttings again now?
However, the plant is covered in what appear to be seed pods.
All clematis seeds I have ever seen have fluffy tails. These are
clusters of little things that break up into what look like pale green
lentils! Are they seeds? Will they be viable? I've never seen their
like before.

Pam in Bristol

Jaques d'Alltrades 15-09-2004 09:25 PM

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from Pam Moore contains these words:

Some of you may remember that earlier in the year I asked a question
about a clematis in a friend's garden that you decided was a viticella
species; small blue bells on quite a prolific climber. My "must have"
plant.
I tried cuttings, and to my shame, none took. I should have kept some
indoors. Is it too late to do cuttings again now?
However, the plant is covered in what appear to be seed pods.
All clematis seeds I have ever seen have fluffy tails. These are
clusters of little things that break up into what look like pale green
lentils! Are they seeds? Will they be viable? I've never seen their
like before.


I've planted some of the seeds from my clematis and none germinated.
OTOH, every cutting did.

In the spring I cut a number of complete nodes with half a node either
side, and buried them (horizontally) about an inch deep in soil, and
kept them well watered.

I'd wait until all the leaves have dropped (assuming that variety is
deciduous) then do what I did.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Emrys Davies 16-09-2004 12:58 AM

'Pam',

Layering is the surest way to succeed and it is also the easiest way to
produce new clematis plants from old stock. Whenever I have tried this
I have had 100% success.

Do it at the end of summer when the stems have had a chance to mature.

Fill a 4" flower pot with potting compost and sink it into the soil near
to the base of the parent plant so that its rim is level with the soil.

Then chose a sturdy stem, detach it from its support and gently bend it
down to the flowerpot, centering a healthy pair of leaves on the surface
of the compost.

Carefully split the stem below the leaf node and dip it in hormone
rooting powder. See diagram re- splitting of the stem
http://www.gardenaction.co.uk/plantf...lematis_23.asp

Now peg the stem in place, just short of the split, with a piece of
wire suitably bent or even a clothes peg. I prefer a piece of wire

Attach the growing end of the shoot to a small cane inserted vertically
near to the wire/peg. Top up the pot with a layer of soil and firm it.

Keep soil moist and do not disturb until the following June when you
should sever the new plant from the parent and lift the pot from the
ground. Treat as you would a new plant.

I wish you well.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
Some of you may remember that earlier in the year I asked a question
about a clematis in a friend's garden that you decided was a viticella
species; small blue bells on quite a prolific climber. My "must have"
plant.
I tried cuttings, and to my shame, none took. I should have kept some
indoors. Is it too late to do cuttings again now?
However, the plant is covered in what appear to be seed pods.
All clematis seeds I have ever seen have fluffy tails. These are
clusters of little things that break up into what look like pale green
lentils! Are they seeds? Will they be viable? I've never seen their
like before.

Pam in Bristol




Pam Moore 16-09-2004 10:33 PM

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:44:08 GMT, Pam Moore
wrote:

Some of you may remember that earlier in the year I asked a question
about a clematis in a friend's garden that you decided was a viticella
species; small blue bells on quite a prolific climber. My "must have"
plant.
However, the plant is covered in what appear to be seed pods.
All clematis seeds I have ever seen have fluffy tails. These are
clusters of little things that break up into what look like pale green
lentils! Are they seeds? Will they be viable? I've never seen their
like before.


Thanks Rusty, I might try cuttings again though I'm not sure I under
stand **complete nodes with half a node either side**
Emrys, I don't think I can do this in a neighbour's garden but I'd
love to try.
Janet, I have had success with seed: alpina and seed from *Fireworks*

My big question still is about the apparent seeds that look like
lentils. Can anyone enlighten me about clematis seeds without fluffy
tails.
Cahrlie?

Pam in Bristol

Tiger303 17-09-2004 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Moore
My big question still is about the apparent seeds that look like
lentils. Can anyone enlighten me about clematis seeds without fluffy
tails.

i'm guessing, but perhaps they weren't pollinated. I have a beautiful purple clematis which hardly ever gets fluffy seed heads and i hardly ever see bees or other insects attracted to it, yet almost the all seads heads on my pink bell-head flowered clematis go fluffy and the bees love it

Charlie Pridham 17-09-2004 10:34 AM


"Pam Moore" wrote in message
...
Some of you may remember that earlier in the year I asked a question
about a clematis in a friend's garden that you decided was a viticella
species; small blue bells on quite a prolific climber. My "must have"
plant.
I tried cuttings, and to my shame, none took. I should have kept some
indoors. Is it too late to do cuttings again now?
However, the plant is covered in what appear to be seed pods.
All clematis seeds I have ever seen have fluffy tails. These are
clusters of little things that break up into what look like pale green
lentils! Are they seeds? Will they be viable? I've never seen their
like before.

Pam in Bristol


Pam, that's what Clematis viticella seed looks like, sow in gritty compost
as soon as ripe, place out side in a cold frame and in spring you will have
germination (protect from rodents! and watch for snails and slugs after
germination) they are just as easy as tangutica but take a year longer to
flower.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Pam Moore 17-09-2004 04:50 PM

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:34:02 +0100, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:

Pam, that's what Clematis viticella seed looks like, sow in gritty compost
as soon as ripe, place out side in a cold frame and in spring you will have
germination (protect from rodents! and watch for snails and slugs after
germination) they are just as easy as tangutica but take a year longer to
flower.


That is really good news Charlie. Thanks. I am determined to get
offspring of this plant one way or another.


Pam in Bristol

Jaques d'Alltrades 17-09-2004 07:36 PM

The message
from Pam Moore contains these words:

Thanks Rusty, I might try cuttings again though I'm not sure I under
stand **complete nodes with half a node either side**



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