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n 21-09-2004 08:39 PM

Slip proofing decking
 
Hello all,

Im hoping this isnt to left field for this group so here goes.

I help out at a local childrens nursery and they have a nice decking out the
back. Only problem is when it rains (and it has been known to do that in
glasgow) it gets very slippy. This usually means the decking be out of
commission for 3/4 of the year up here. Could anybody suggest a good
treatment for the wood as im sure that this must be an issu for anybody that
has ever put down decking in the UK.

Thanking in advance from me an 40 hyperactive anklebiters





asiggy 21-09-2004 08:46 PM

Try Good old yacht varnish. Its weather proof (If multicoated) and virtually
non slip
"n" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

Im hoping this isnt to left field for this group so here goes.

I help out at a local childrens nursery and they have a nice decking out

the
back. Only problem is when it rains (and it has been known to do that in
glasgow) it gets very slippy. This usually means the decking be out of
commission for 3/4 of the year up here. Could anybody suggest a good
treatment for the wood as im sure that this must be an issu for anybody

that
has ever put down decking in the UK.

Thanking in advance from me an 40 hyperactive anklebiters







tihnman 21-09-2004 08:47 PM


"asiggy" wrote in message
...
Try Good old yacht varnish. Its weather proof (If multicoated) and
virtually
non slip


Banging! Never even thought of that :-)

Ta

tihnman



Brian Watson 21-09-2004 09:12 PM


"asiggy" wrote in message
...
Try Good old yacht varnish. Its weather proof (If multicoated) and

virtually
non slip


Stirring sand into ordinary decking treatment worked for me.

--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"



tihnman 21-09-2004 09:18 PM


"
Stirring sand into ordinary decking treatment worked for me.

--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"



the only problem with this is its for kids decking and needs to be OK if
they do fall. I get the idea that laying down sandpaper might hurt...;-)

tihnman



Mike 21-09-2004 09:56 PM

Depending on the area, why not cover it with the 'waterproof' type carpet of
synthetic lawn. Years ago when Cyril Lord was making very cheap carpets, he
produced a 'carpet' called "Cyril Lawn".

Someone else has suggested sand in with the paint and another raised the
question of it being 'sandpaper'. I would look into a synthetic surface.

There is a surface made of old tyres, but I believe it to be a compound to
be mixed like concrete and laid, and rather expensive. Found under
children's play areas as supplied by councils and fitted at Motorway Service
areas

Few ideas :-))

Mike



Brian Watson 21-09-2004 10:34 PM


"tihnman" wrote in message
...

"
Stirring sand into ordinary decking treatment worked for me.

--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"



the only problem with this is its for kids decking and needs to be OK if
they do fall. I get the idea that laying down sandpaper might hurt...;-)


If they fall over on wood (treated or otherwise) it may well hurt - regard
it as a life lesson.

--
Brian



Brian Watson 21-09-2004 10:35 PM


"Mike" wrote in message
...
Depending on the area, why not cover it with the 'waterproof' type carpet

of
synthetic lawn. Years ago when Cyril Lord was making very cheap carpets,

he
produced a 'carpet' called "Cyril Lawn".


Next year I will be using some carpet tiles for an area in the garden. If
you can wait, I'll report back here on how I get on.

:-))
--
Brian



Derek.Moody 22-09-2004 12:38 AM

In article , n

I help out at a local childrens nursery and they have a nice decking out the
back. Only problem is when it rains (and it has been known to do that in
glasgow) it gets very slippy. This usually means the decking be out of


Prep the decking properly, prime it them apply deck paint designed for
commercial fishing-boats (which get really slippery). The yacht paint you
may be offered isn't good enough as it will clog with algae unless it gets
frequent doses of salt water.

Hth, Cheerio,

--



Franz Heymann 22-09-2004 09:09 AM


"tihnman" wrote in message
...

"
Stirring sand into ordinary decking treatment worked for me.

--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"



the only problem with this is its for kids decking and needs to be

OK if
they do fall. I get the idea that laying down sandpaper might

hurt...;-)

If they don't ever fall on the pavement and graze their skins, they
ought to. My parents referred to it as the shaving off of the
unskilled flesh.

Franz



Martin Brown 22-09-2004 11:46 AM

In message , n writes
Hello all,

Im hoping this isnt to left field for this group so here goes.

I help out at a local childrens nursery and they have a nice decking out the
back. Only problem is when it rains (and it has been known to do that in
glasgow) it gets very slippy.


That is the purpose of decking. It makes a lot more sense in hot dry
climates.

This usually means the decking be out of
commission for 3/4 of the year up here. Could anybody suggest a good
treatment for the wood as im sure that this must be an issu for anybody that
has ever put down decking in the UK.


Bonfire night is 5th November.

Thanking in advance from me an 40 hyperactive anklebiters


Regards,
--
Martin Brown

tihnman 22-09-2004 12:17 PM

There is a surface made of old tyres, but I believe it to be a compound to
be mixed like concrete and laid, and rather expensive. Found under
children's play areas as supplied by councils and fitted at Motorway
Service
areas



This seems exactly what im after, I dont suppose anyone has any idea where i
could get some/ contract someone to do this? Hopefully all work will be
covered by a grant so not too worried about the price.



JennyC 22-09-2004 01:41 PM


"tihnman" wrote in message
...
There is a surface made of old tyres, but I believe it to be a compound to
be mixed like concrete and laid, and rather expensive. Found under
children's play areas as supplied by councils and fitted at Motorway
Service
areas



This seems exactly what im after, I dont suppose anyone has any idea where i
could get some/ contract someone to do this? Hopefully all work will be
covered by a grant so not too worried about the price.



This ghastly laid out site has info on tyre granules :
http://www.tyrerecyclingsuccess.com/

See also
http://www.absolutely-safe-surfaces.co.uk/

http://www.smrnet.co.uk/ukrubbermats/

Jenny




DJBrenton 22-09-2004 02:06 PM

This seems exactly what im after, I dont suppose anyone has any idea where i
could get some/ contract someone to do this? Hopefully all work will be
covered by a grant so not too worried about the price.[/quote]


http://www.londonremade.com/recyclin...ail.asp?sid=39

DJBrenton 22-09-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJBrenton
This seems exactly what im after, I dont suppose anyone has any idea where i
could get some/ contract someone to do this? Hopefully all work will be
covered by a grant so not too worried about the price.


http://www.londonremade.com/recyclin...ail.asp?sid=39[/quote]

Some more products

http://www.londonremade.com/recyclin...il.asp?pid=165

http://www.londonremade.com/recyclin...il.asp?pid=116

Franz Heymann 22-09-2004 02:42 PM


"tihnman" wrote in message
...
There is a surface made of old tyres, but I believe it to be a

compound to
be mixed like concrete and laid, and rather expensive. Found under
children's play areas as supplied by councils and fitted at

Motorway
Service
areas



This seems exactly what im after, I dont suppose anyone has any idea

where i
could get some/ contract someone to do this? Hopefully all work

will be
covered by a grant so not too worried about the price.


Why are you not worried about the price if the work is covered by a
grant?

Franz



L 23-09-2004 10:20 PM


"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
In message , n writes
Hello all,

Im hoping this isnt to left field for this group so here goes.

I help out at a local childrens nursery and they have a nice decking out

the
back. Only problem is when it rains (and it has been known to do that in
glasgow) it gets very slippy.


That is the purpose of decking. It makes a lot more sense in hot dry
climates.

This usually means the decking be out of
commission for 3/4 of the year up here. Could anybody suggest a good
treatment for the wood as im sure that this must be an issu for anybody

that
has ever put down decking in the UK.


Bonfire night is 5th November.

Thanking in advance from me an 40 hyperactive anklebiters


Regards,
--
Martin Brown


I knew it - just knew it....seems there never can be a thread on decking
without someone saying it's better on a bonfire than in the garden



Mike Lyle 24-09-2004 07:43 PM

Brian Watson wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
...
Depending on the area, why not cover it with the 'waterproof' type
carpet of synthetic lawn. Years ago when Cyril Lord was making

very
cheap carpets, he produced a 'carpet' called "Cyril Lawn".


Next year I will be using some carpet tiles for an area in the
garden. If you can wait, I'll report back here on how I get on.


You're not a betting man, by any chance? If you're in the British
Isles, five quid says they'll be so green and slimy (or maybe black
and slimy; or maybe both) inside a year that you'll want to throw
them away. Not sure how long they'll resist sunlight, or whether
they'll curl up, so no bet offered on those issues.

Mike (always looking on the bright side).



Brian Watson 24-09-2004 09:48 PM


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
Brian Watson wrote:


Next year I will be using some carpet tiles for an area in the
garden. If you can wait, I'll report back here on how I get on.


You're not a betting man, by any chance? If you're in the British
Isles, five quid says they'll be so green and slimy (or maybe black
and slimy; or maybe both) inside a year that you'll want to throw
them away. Not sure how long they'll resist sunlight, or whether
they'll curl up, so no bet offered on those issues.


I'd take the bet but I think the result will probably fall somewhere between
"good idea, what a surprise" and the two outcomes you suggest, so judging
who's won would be impossible.

Carpet tiles themselves are pretty inert, which is why they work pretty well
in kitchens, though I realise they may make an ideal breeding medium for all
sorts of first-footers from the primordial soup if allowed to lie damp for
any extended period.

Just figure it is worth a try with nothing lost, apart from a few quid, if
it does turn out to be a disaster.

I have it in mind to lay them on top of a tannalised wood framework which
has been topped off with a metal mesh so as to get water away as quickly as
possible.

Whether that will be enough remains to be seen, as does how they and their
adhesive stand up to sunlight, as you say.
--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"



Mike Lyle 24-09-2004 10:28 PM

Brian Watson wrote:
[...]
I have it in mind to lay them on top of a tannalised wood framework
which has been topped off with a metal mesh so as to get water away
as quickly as possible.

Whether that will be enough remains to be seen, as does how they

and
their adhesive stand up to sunlight, as you say.


What about their water-retention, though? If I understand the things
correctly, they're on a waterproof backing.

But I hope you'll let us know the results: an interesting experiment.

Mike.



Brian Watson 25-09-2004 07:40 AM


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
Brian Watson wrote:
[...]
I have it in mind to lay them on top of a tannalised wood framework
which has been topped off with a metal mesh so as to get water away
as quickly as possible.

Whether that will be enough remains to be seen, as does how they

and
their adhesive stand up to sunlight, as you say.


What about their water-retention, though? If I understand the things
correctly, they're on a waterproof backing.


Thanks (I've not bought 'em yet). I may have to drill a few holes!

But I hope you'll let us know the results: an interesting experiment.


Thanks again. I came to it by having a place in the garden where carpet
tiles would seem to be a good solution except for it being an
apparently-daft idea that I'd never heard anyone trying before!

Having discovered that sand in varnish makes a good non-slip treatment for
decking I thought I'd try this oddball idea and see if THAT works.
--
Brian



Tumbleweed 30-09-2004 08:43 AM


"Brian Watson" wrote in message
...

"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
Brian Watson wrote:
[...]
I have it in mind to lay them on top of a tannalised wood framework
which has been topped off with a metal mesh so as to get water away
as quickly as possible.

Whether that will be enough remains to be seen, as does how they

and
their adhesive stand up to sunlight, as you say.


What about their water-retention, though? If I understand the things
correctly, they're on a waterproof backing.


Thanks (I've not bought 'em yet). I may have to drill a few holes!

But I hope you'll let us know the results: an interesting experiment.


Thanks again. I came to it by having a place in the garden where carpet
tiles would seem to be a good solution except for it being an
apparently-daft idea that I'd never heard anyone trying before!

Having discovered that sand in varnish makes a good non-slip treatment for
decking I thought I'd try this oddball idea and see if THAT works.



what about the artificial grass surfaces you can get? Like carpet but with a
grassy look (to a fashion) and texture, perhaps a very short type of that.
Meant for outdoors use, & could be pressure washed. No idea where to buy it
but I know it comes in fairly wide rolls.

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address



Brian Watson 30-09-2004 10:53 PM


"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
.. .

"Brian Watson" wrote in message
...


Thanks again. I came to it by having a place in the garden where carpet
tiles would seem to be a good solution except for it being an
apparently-daft idea that I'd never heard anyone trying before!

Having discovered that sand in varnish makes a good non-slip treatment

for
decking I thought I'd try this oddball idea and see if THAT works.



what about the artificial grass surfaces you can get? Like carpet but with

a
grassy look (to a fashion) and texture, perhaps a very short type of that.
Meant for outdoors use, & could be pressure washed. No idea where to buy

it
but I know it comes in fairly wide rolls.


Ah, but someone's already done that...

:-))

--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"




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