Artichokes - What's in a name
 

I have, for the first time, grown Jerusalem Artichokes - just two of
them.
Until a couple of days ago they were ten feet high and flowering.
Then the gales blew them down - even though they were staked with two
inch square hardwood stakes!
One of them exposed all its roots so we ate them - and rather pleasant
they were, too.

Now to the subject ... why are two apparently completely different
plants given the same name?
What on earth is there in common between Globe Artichokes and Jerusalem
Artichokes?
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The plant came to England from the Americas via France and Italy The name
Girasole was it's Italian name and Jerusalem is a corruption of Girasole,(
follows the sun...they are members of the same family as sunflowers.)
Supposed to be good for diabetics
Known amongst all my friends as Fartichokes!....they have great wind inducing
properties
Make excellent soup (Creme Palestine)
and if boiled, better slightly undercooked so they are still crisp.

Gardening - make sure you dig them all up otherwise they will take over! I
always dig mine up, them immediately plant a few of them as seed for next
year....they are heavy croppers too so not very many needed

Dave Hunt...Shropshire
----share what you know...learn what you don't----

Artichokes - What's in a name
 

In article ], Chris ]
writes

Now to the subject ... why are two apparently completely different
plants given the same name?
What on earth is there in common between Globe Artichokes and Jerusalem
Artichokes?

Following Dave's excellent description of Jerusalem artichokes;

Globe artichokes - Cynara scolymus, are 'real' artichokes. They are in
fact a cultivated variety of the common thistle. They are grown for
decorative purposes as well as for culinary use. Though they are fully
hardy, they are more popularly grown and used in Southern Europe where
the climate favours them better than in UK. Globes need plenty of
space, and they need to have well enriched soil if they are to produce
edible artichokes. They can be grown from seed or from root offsets
taken in autumn. They seldom produce useable artichokes in their first
year, then they will have 3 or 4 productive years before needing to be
replaced, or left to grow as a foliar and floral display.

The plants will grow to 6 or 7 ft. high and will develop big thistle
like heads. When the heads are fully developed, but before they begin to
harden ready to open as flowers, they are cut off for use. The artichoke
is the fleshy pad at the bottom of the leaves. They are a culinary
delight with a distinctive flavour and can be prepared in may ways.

Cardoons are another plant in the same family as Globe Artichokes. They
are grown for their leaves, stalks and midribs which are blanched during
growth. There are a number of other 'artichokes' grown, such as Chinese
Artichokes, Skirret etc.
--
Alan & Joan Gould, North Lincs.

Artichokes - What's in a name
 

"Dave Hunt" wrote in message
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Known amongst all my friends as Fartichokes!..

I thought everyone called them that.

Make excellent soup (Creme Palestine)
and if boiled, better slightly undercooked so they are still crisp.

We like them best scrubbed, left with skins on and baked dry in the oven.
The outsides are crisp and the insides soft and creamy - yum.

But they still make you fart.

Mary

Artichokes - What's in a name
 

"Known amongst all my friends as Fartichokes!....they have great wind
inducing
properties"

They stop the wind all the time they are growing and release it when you eat
them.

--
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Artichokes - What's in a name
 

In article , Alan Gould
writes
In article ], Chris ]
writes

Now to the subject ... why are two apparently completely different
plants given the same name?
What on earth is there in common between Globe Artichokes and Jerusalem
Artichokes?

Following Dave's excellent description of Jerusalem artichokes;
Globe artichokes - Cynara scolymus, are 'real' artichokes. They are in
fact a cultivated variety of the common thistle.

Thanks - but - I know what they both are.
And they are both equally real - in that I have direct sensory
experience of both - surely the best epistemological base.
My question is: why do they both have the name "artichoke", when they
seem to have nothing in common?
--
Chris

Artichokes - What's in a name
 

In article ], Chris ]
writes
My question is: why do they both have the name "artichoke", when they
seem to have nothing in common?

Good point. I'd like to know the reason for that too.
--
Alan Gould

Artichokes - What's in a name
 

"Now to the subject ... why are two apparently completely different
plants given the same name?
What on earth is there in common between Globe Artichokes and Jerusalem
Artichokes? "

well my book also talks about the Chinese or Japanese artichoke as well,
just to add to the fun



--
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Artichokes - What's in a name
 

In article , david david@abacusnurser
ies.freeserve.co.uk writes

well my book also talks about the Chinese or Japanese artichoke as well,
just to add to the fun


From:
http://www.foodreference.com/html/fc...artichoke.html
CHINESE ARTICHOKE
Crosne, also called Chinese artichoke, Japanese artichoke, knotroot and
Chorogi. This is an Asian member of the mint family grown for its
unusually shaped edible tubers. They were introduced to Europe in the
1880s (first cultivated in France near Crosne, hence the name) and
enjoyed popularity until the 1920s. They have been 'rediscovered' lately
and it's popularity has increased here in the U.S. The tubers look a
string of misshapen mottled pearls (they are also described as
'petrified worms). They can be eaten raw, in salads, or stir fried,
boiled, baked or in soups.
--
Alan & Joan Gould, North Lincs.

Artichokes - What's in a name
 

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Well, I think that the flavours are similar - neither is akin to
anything
else either. In my opinion.

Really? I think Fartichokes taste more like dandelion roots than anything
else.

LOL! I bow to your greater experience, never having tasted dandelion roots
....

Ewwwww. Whereas I really like proper artichokes.

So do I. And I gt to eat them all because Spouse can't be bothered with
them. We both love the girosol type ...

Mary