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Old 12-11-2002, 09:50 AM
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Carol Russell wrote:
Just an update.
I have now removed the ivy, there was one small birds nest but thousands of
woodlice and I would think that they may damage the tree.


By tickling it?

They live on soft, usually decaying, vegetable matter and cause no
harm in the garden except occasionally to seedlings (and not often
to them). They were merely sheltering.


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Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
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"Carol Russell" wrote in message
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Just an update.
I have now removed the ivy, there was one small birds nest but thousands

of
woodlice and I would think that they may damage the tree.

OhmyGod, now you are a woodlouse murderer as well!!

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Old 13-11-2002, 02:50 AM
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Just an update.
I have now removed the ivy, there was one small birds nest but thousands

of
woodlice and I would think that they may damage the tree.


By tickling it?

They live on soft, usually decaying, vegetable matter and cause no
harm in the garden except occasionally to seedlings (and not often
to them). They were merely sheltering.



They were not just sheltering but living there eating either the ivy or the
tree, when they run out of preferred food they eat what they can get, in
this case they would have caused possible entry for pathogens into the tree.


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Old 13-11-2002, 07:53 AM
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"Carol Russell" wrote in message
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Just an update.
I have now removed the ivy, there was one small birds nest but

thousands
of
woodlice and I would think that they may damage the tree.


By tickling it?

They live on soft, usually decaying, vegetable matter and cause no
harm in the garden except occasionally to seedlings (and not often
to them). They were merely sheltering.



They were not just sheltering but living there eating either the ivy or

the
tree, when they run out of preferred food they eat what they can get, in
this case they would have caused possible entry for pathogens into the

tree.

No they werent, they were eating decaying matter, thats what woodlice do.

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Old 13-11-2002, 09:41 AM
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Tumbleweed wrote:
"Carol Russell" wrote in message
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Just an update.
I have now removed the ivy, there was one small birds nest but

thousands
of
woodlice and I would think that they may damage the tree.

By tickling it?

They live on soft, usually decaying, vegetable matter and cause no
harm in the garden except occasionally to seedlings (and not often
to them). They were merely sheltering.


They were not just sheltering but living there eating either the ivy or

the
tree, when they run out of preferred food they eat what they can get, in
this case they would have caused possible entry for pathogens into the

tree.

No they werent, they were eating decaying matter, thats what woodlice do.


And probably not the matter trapped by the ivy, as that is usually
fairly hard. They have VERY weak mouthparts, and could not possibly
damage the bark of even an established annual, let alone a tree!
They might JUST be able to eat leaves that had already been damaged,
but probably only when the leaves had already started to rot.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
Email:
Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679


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Old 14-11-2002, 08:31 AM
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Just an update.
I have now removed the ivy, there was one small birds nest but

thousands
of
woodlice and I would think that they may damage the tree.

By tickling it?

They live on soft, usually decaying, vegetable matter and cause no
harm in the garden except occasionally to seedlings (and not often
to them). They were merely sheltering.

They were not just sheltering but living there eating either the ivy or

the
tree, when they run out of preferred food they eat what they can get,

in
this case they would have caused possible entry for pathogens into the

tree.

No they werent, they were eating decaying matter, thats what woodlice do.


And probably not the matter trapped by the ivy, as that is usually
fairly hard. They have VERY weak mouthparts, and could not possibly
damage the bark of even an established annual, let alone a tree!
They might JUST be able to eat leaves that had already been damaged,
but probably only when the leaves had already started to rot.



From "Readers Digest encyclopaedia of garden plants and flowers" " and may
cause damage to roots stems and leaves of various plants ".
Art


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Old 14-11-2002, 09:34 AM
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In article ,
Carol Russell wrote:

No they werent, they were eating decaying matter, thats what woodlice do.


And probably not the matter trapped by the ivy, as that is usually
fairly hard. They have VERY weak mouthparts, and could not possibly
damage the bark of even an established annual, let alone a tree!
They might JUST be able to eat leaves that had already been damaged,
but probably only when the leaves had already started to rot.


From "Readers Digest encyclopaedia of garden plants and flowers" " and may
cause damage to roots stems and leaves of various plants ".


That particular rag has had a reputation for publishing a mixture of
pap and nonsense for 50 years; I am glad to see that it is preserving
its tradition.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
Email:
Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
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No they werent, they were eating decaying matter, thats what woodlice

do.

And probably not the matter trapped by the ivy, as that is usually
fairly hard. They have VERY weak mouthparts, and could not possibly
damage the bark of even an established annual, let alone a tree!
They might JUST be able to eat leaves that had already been damaged,
but probably only when the leaves had already started to rot.


From "Readers Digest encyclopaedia of garden plants and flowers" " and

may
cause damage to roots stems and leaves of various plants ".


That particular rag has had a reputation for publishing a mixture of
pap and nonsense for 50 years; I am glad to see that it is preserving
its tradition.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,


The RHS guide and many sites on the web agrees with Readers Digest

Art


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Old 16-11-2002, 07:16 AM
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"Carol Russell" wrote in message
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No they werent, they were eating decaying matter, thats what

woodlice
do.

And probably not the matter trapped by the ivy, as that is usually
fairly hard. They have VERY weak mouthparts, and could not possibly
damage the bark of even an established annual, let alone a tree!
They might JUST be able to eat leaves that had already been damaged,
but probably only when the leaves had already started to rot.

From "Readers Digest encyclopaedia of garden plants and flowers" " and

may
cause damage to roots stems and leaves of various plants ".


That particular rag has had a reputation for publishing a mixture of
pap and nonsense for 50 years; I am glad to see that it is preserving
its tradition.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,


The RHS guide and many sites on the web agrees with Readers Digest

Art


Does they say that woodlice eat trees?
TimbeRRRRRRRRRRR!

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Old 17-11-2002, 03:11 AM
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Does they say that woodlice eat trees?
TimbeRRRRRRRRRRR!

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If you were to look back you would note that I said that they may help entry
for pathogens and they certainly could eventually bring down the tree.

Art




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Old 17-11-2002, 12:53 PM
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In article ,
Carol Russell wrote:

Does they say that woodlice eat trees?
TimbeRRRRRRRRRRR!


If you were to look back you would note that I said that they may help entry
for pathogens and they certainly could eventually bring down the tree.


The word that springs to mind rhymes with piddocks. No, they are not
a sort of terrestrial piddock, despite the lunacies you may have
found on the Web.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.
Email:
Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
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