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Old 21-10-2002, 11:37 PM
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I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What now?
Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the roots?
I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over their
conifers!!

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Old 22-10-2002, 12:28 AM
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What is their diameter? Are they surrounded by concrete, tarmacadam or
the like?

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I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What

now?
Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the

roots?
I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over

their
conifers!!

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Old 22-10-2002, 02:30 AM
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"Akkerman's Plektrum" pushed
briefly to the front of the queue on Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:37:00 +0000
(UTC), and nailed this to the shed door:

^ I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What now?
^ Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the roots?
^ I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over their
^ conifers!!

Grab your fork, and FOCUS on the task at hand ...

Andy

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Old 22-10-2002, 06:59 AM
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Xref: 127.0.0.1 uk.rec.gardening:160992

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 01:30:24 GMT, (Andy Spragg)
wrote:

"Akkerman's Plektrum" pushed
briefly to the front of the queue on Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:37:00 +0000
(UTC), and nailed this to the shed door:

^ I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What now?
^ Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the roots?
^ I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over their
^ conifers!!

Grab your fork, and FOCUS on the task at hand ...

Andy

.................................................. .........................
With respect Andy, using a fork - or most any other garden digging
tool - to remove the root of a mature conifer is akin to scrubbing
the M1 with a tooth brush.

On our Silver Wedding Anniversary we bought a conifer *guaranteed*
to grow no more than 8 - 10 feet. By the time we celebrated our
"Gold," it had surpassed 17 feet and still shooting upwards.
After another five years I couldn't be bothered to carry out the
necessary trigonometry, the tree was tatty and dwarfing our bungalow.
With heavy heart I brought in the trees' "Knackers Man" to
fell it, and to 'grub out' the roots. His machine wasn't up to it and
died on the job. A week later he was back with a new device which
in turn gave up the ghost after four hours or so. By this time there
was a pit 18" deep and the remains of a trunk almost five feet across.
The guy had done all that he could, and in fairness I told him to
accept the fact that the tree had won.

Another two years on, the shrubs (small ones) with which I
replaced "Goliath" are happily underway, though even
they look as though their ambition may be "Excelsior."

Losing an old friend and burying him/her is difficult. Digging them
up, is b****y nigh impossible!
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Old 22-10-2002, 08:08 AM
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"Akkerman's Plektrum" wrote in message
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I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What now?
Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the

roots?
I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over their
conifers!!

They'll stop growing and rot. Eventually. But sawing down to that level has
removed you of the chnce to use leverage to help get the roots out if you
dig around them. You are probably better off either chainsawing again just
to ground level, or getting someone with a stump grinder to dig them out
(expensive). A tree (not conifer) that I dug out but left some of the roots
3 years ago has just rotted to the stage where they can be easily dug out.I
suspect with conifer wood it will take longer for them to rot.

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Old 22-10-2002, 09:09 AM
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Tumbleweed wrote:

"Akkerman's Plektrum" wrote in message
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I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What now?
Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the

roots?
I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over their
conifers!!

They'll stop growing and rot. Eventually. But sawing down to that level has
removed you of the chnce to use leverage to help get the roots out if you
dig around them. You are probably better off either chainsawing again just
to ground level, or getting someone with a stump grinder to dig them out
(expensive). A tree (not conifer) that I dug out but left some of the roots
3 years ago has just rotted to the stage where they can be easily dug out.I
suspect with conifer wood it will take longer for them to rot.


Apple and pear tree roots certainly do. I have one still there after more than
10 years. It grows some spectacular fungi at this time of year. Adding a bit of
nitrogen feed will encourage it to rot. Ammonium sulphamate sold as rootout is
more or less a weedkiller that decays to a high nitrogen feed. It is quite
effective against stubborn tree roots that want to regrow and sucker.

Regards,
Martin Brown

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Old 22-10-2002, 09:32 AM
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Serendipity pushed briefly to the front of
the queue on Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:59:59 +0100, and nailed this to the
shed door:

^ On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 01:30:24 GMT, (Andy Spragg)
^ wrote:
^
^ "Akkerman's Plektrum" pushed
^ briefly to the front of the queue on Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:37:00 +0000
^ (UTC), and nailed this to the shed door:
^
^ ^ I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What now?
^ ^ Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the roots?
^ ^ I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over their
^ ^ conifers!!
^
^ Grab your fork, and FOCUS on the task at hand ...

^ With respect Andy, using a fork - or most any other garden digging
^ tool - to remove the root of a mature conifer is akin to scrubbing
^ the M1 with a tooth brush.

With respect yourself (grits teeth), you are missing the POINT. Seeing
as you have been married at least 50 years, you must be of pensionable
age, and can be completely excused for not getting the joke (I did
capitalize it to signal its presence). However, I did think that most
people would recognise it as tongue-in-cheek even if they didn't get
the joke.

Anyway, he never said they were mature. I removed our three stumps
quite successfully using only a garden fork. They were only a few
inches in diameter; maybe A'sP's are too.

Andy

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Old 22-10-2002, 07:29 PM
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:32:09 GMT, (Andy Spragg)
wrote:

Serendipity pushed briefly to the front of
the queue on Tue, 22 Oct 2002 06:59:59 +0100, and nailed this to the
shed door:

^ On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 01:30:24 GMT,
(Andy Spragg)
^ wrote:
^
^ "Akkerman's Plektrum" pushed
^ briefly to the front of the queue on Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:37:00 +0000
^ (UTC), and nailed this to the shed door:
^
^ ^ I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What now?
^ ^ Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the roots?
^ ^ I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over their
^ ^ conifers!!
^
^ Grab your fork, and FOCUS on the task at hand ...

^ With respect Andy, using a fork - or most any other garden digging
^ tool - to remove the root of a mature conifer is akin to scrubbing
^ the M1 with a tooth brush.

With respect yourself (grits teeth), you are missing the POINT. Seeing
as you have been married at least 50 years, you must be of pensionable
age, and can be completely excused for not getting the joke (I did
capitalize it to signal its presence). However, I did think that most
people would recognise it as tongue-in-cheek even if they didn't get
the joke.

Anyway, he never said they were mature. I removed our three stumps
quite successfully using only a garden fork. They were only a few
inches in diameter; maybe A'sP's are too.

Andy

.................................................. ...................................
Oh! I did miss the point didn't I?
... and there was me thinking that the use of a chain saw indicated
something like a tree sized tree! Also the thought that "I'm sure some
people move house because they have lost control over their conifers,"
showed the path of the contribution.

I understood that capitalising a word indicated shouting, but of
course it means inverted commas as in 'FOCUS' and perhaps 'POINT'.
Silly me!

Coincidentally as no one else saw the joke either, perhaps
it's your sense of humour that's erring a little?

Perhaps my contribution was more apposite
to the original contributor than your unfocussed joke. Geddit?

Regards...
Poor old doddering John.
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Old 25-10-2002, 11:38 PM
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"Akkerman's Plektrum" wrote in

message
...
I chainsawed my (inherited) conifers to within 4" of the ground. What

now?
Will they stop growing or do I need to do something else to kill the

roots?
I'm sure some people move house because they have lost control over

their
conifers!!

They'll stop growing and rot. Eventually. But sawing down to that level

has
removed you of the chnce to use leverage to help get the roots out if

you
dig around them. You are probably better off either chainsawing again

just
to ground level, or getting someone with a stump grinder to dig them out
(expensive). A tree (not conifer) that I dug out but left some of the

roots
3 years ago has just rotted to the stage where they can be easily dug

out.I
suspect with conifer wood it will take longer for them to rot.


Apple and pear tree roots certainly do. I have one still there after more

than
10 years. It grows some spectacular fungi at this time of year. Adding a

bit of
nitrogen feed will encourage it to rot. Ammonium sulphamate sold as

rootout is
more or less a weedkiller that decays to a high nitrogen feed. It is quite
effective against stubborn tree roots that want to regrow and sucker.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Sorry been away a bit, thanks for all your help and musings. They are more
than 17 years old and between up to 9 inches around at the stump. They are
in soil but a root my neighbour cut through a metre down a few years ago(his
garden is lower than mine) was still 6" he says!! I have enough trouble
pulling dandelions up!! However logic tells me the roots alone won't demand
half as much water and nutrients as it needed for the foliage it once had.
Neighbour Jim reckons his onions will be twice the size next year with more
sunshine and less stolen nutrition "an tha can 'ave some Mick lad when
they're ready fer pullin" he said.
thanks again
mik




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