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Gary 09-11-2004 09:59 AM

So you think you compost big time? Check this out...
 
Hello
This is for all you avid composters out there. I compost lots (from
neighbours, my own kitchen waste and several local restaurants) but I found
a magnificent effort being done in San Francisco, USA. I can't provide the
site but I can give you something to do a search on the WWW. Do a search for
Jepson Prairie Organics. Their site will give you plenty of links to check
out. Should you not be able to find the site, post a message in this thread
and I will find out what it is. I was so excited about this, that I just
wanted to pass the information on to you all.
As an intro:
A quote from the San Francisco Examiner, written by Jo
Stanley/Staff Writer, dated Sept 2/04:
"Every day, four or five 18-wheelers (a very large lorry) head north
from San Francisco carrying a precious but unusual cargo: 300 tons of food
scraps headed for a giant composting plant in...."
I am excited about the participation level and, more importantly, the
results! Composting does seem to work...really, really well! And the plants
and worms love it.
Gary
Fort Langley, BC
Canada



Franz Heymann 09-11-2004 11:56 AM


"Gary" wrote in message
...
Hello
This is for all you avid composters out there. I compost lots

(from
neighbours, my own kitchen waste and several local restaurants) but

I found
a magnificent effort being done in San Francisco, USA. I can't

provide the
site but I can give you something to do a search on the WWW. Do a

search for
Jepson Prairie Organics. Their site will give you plenty of links to

check
out. Should you not be able to find the site, post a message in this

thread
and I will find out what it is. I was so excited about this, that I

just
wanted to pass the information on to you all.
As an intro:
A quote from the San Francisco Examiner, written by Jo
Stanley/Staff Writer, dated Sept 2/04:
"Every day, four or five 18-wheelers (a very large lorry) head

north
from San Francisco carrying a precious but unusual cargo: 300 tons

of food
scraps headed for a giant composting plant in...."
I am excited about the participation level and, more

importantly, the
results! Composting does seem to work...really, really well! And the

plants
and worms love it.


This is a growing activity in the UK and has now been put in practice
by the appropriate authorities in most cities and many towns. I
obtain most of my compost from my local council.

Franz



Bruce 10-11-2004 06:37 PM

This is the second time I've tried replying to this post, so apologies if I
am duplicating.

It sounds like a great idea but just how do you go about getting compost
from your local council? Our council (Derbyshire Dales) is about to start a
wheely bin scheme including one for garden waste, so I may be able to take
advantage.....

Bruce

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Gary" wrote in message
...
Hello
This is for all you avid composters out there. I compost lots

(from
neighbours, my own kitchen waste and several local restaurants) but

I found
a magnificent effort being done in San Francisco, USA. I can't

provide the
site but I can give you something to do a search on the WWW. Do a

search for
Jepson Prairie Organics. Their site will give you plenty of links to

check
out. Should you not be able to find the site, post a message in this

thread
and I will find out what it is. I was so excited about this, that I

just
wanted to pass the information on to you all.
As an intro:
A quote from the San Francisco Examiner, written by Jo
Stanley/Staff Writer, dated Sept 2/04:
"Every day, four or five 18-wheelers (a very large lorry) head

north
from San Francisco carrying a precious but unusual cargo: 300 tons

of food
scraps headed for a giant composting plant in...."
I am excited about the participation level and, more

importantly, the
results! Composting does seem to work...really, really well! And the

plants
and worms love it.


This is a growing activity in the UK and has now been put in practice
by the appropriate authorities in most cities and many towns. I
obtain most of my compost from my local council.

Franz





Franz Heymann 10-11-2004 09:52 PM


"Bruce" wrote in message
...

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"Gary" wrote in message
...
Hello
This is for all you avid composters out there. I compost lots

(from
neighbours, my own kitchen waste and several local restaurants)

but
I found
a magnificent effort being done in San Francisco, USA. I can't

provide the
site but I can give you something to do a search on the WWW. Do a

search for
Jepson Prairie Organics. Their site will give you plenty of links

to
check
out. Should you not be able to find the site, post a message in

this
thread
and I will find out what it is. I was so excited about this, that

I
just
wanted to pass the information on to you all.
As an intro:
A quote from the San Francisco Examiner, written by

Jo
Stanley/Staff Writer, dated Sept 2/04:
"Every day, four or five 18-wheelers (a very large lorry)

head
north
from San Francisco carrying a precious but unusual cargo: 300

tons
of food
scraps headed for a giant composting plant in...."
I am excited about the participation level and, more

importantly, the
results! Composting does seem to work...really, really well! And

the
plants
and worms love it.


This is a growing activity in the UK and has now been put in

practice
by the appropriate authorities in most cities and many towns. I
obtain most of my compost from my local council.


This is the second time I've tried replying to this post, so

apologies if I
am duplicating.

It sounds like a great idea but just how do you go about getting

compost
from your local council? Our council (Derbyshire Dales) is about to

start a
wheely bin scheme including one for garden waste, so I may be able

to take
advantage.....


It is available at all the public waste disposal sites of my council.
Why don't you ring you local council and ask them where to get it?

Franz



Gary 11-11-2004 07:05 AM

On 11/10/04 4:19 PM, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote:

The message
from "Bruce" contains these words:


It sounds like a great idea but just how do you go about getting compost
from your local council?


Tough one. Maybe ask your local council?

Janet.

Yes, and let us all know the results...I for one like to hear of more and
more recyclables being recycled...and not just dumped some place. In Canada
there are many restaurants that still throw the stuff into the garbage and
it goes to landfills. I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the ocean.
In both cases-what a waste and more pollution being added where it need not
be.
Gary


Franz Heymann 11-11-2004 11:28 AM


"Gary" wrote in message
...
On 11/10/04 4:19 PM, in article

,
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote:

The message
from "Bruce" contains these words:


It sounds like a great idea but just how do you go about getting

compost
from your local council?


Tough one. Maybe ask your local council?

Janet.

Yes, and let us all know the results...I for one like to hear of

more and
more recyclables being recycled...and not just dumped some place. In

Canada
there are many restaurants that still throw the stuff into the

garbage and
it goes to landfills. I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the

ocean.

No. You think wrong. Landfill and recycling are the most common ways
of disposing of rubbish

In both cases-what a waste and more pollution being added where it

need not
be.


Franz



Kay 11-11-2004 12:57 PM

In article , Gary
writes

Yes, and let us all know the results...I for one like to hear of more and
more recyclables being recycled...and not just dumped some place. In Canada
there are many restaurants that still throw the stuff into the garbage and
it goes to landfills. I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the ocean.


Why would you think we routinely dump our refuse into the ocean?

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Gary Davis 12-11-2004 12:29 AM

On 11/11/04 4:57 AM, in article , "Kay"
wrote:

In article , Gary
writes

Yes, and let us all know the results...I for one like to hear of more and
more recyclables being recycled...and not just dumped some place. In Canada
there are many restaurants that still throw the stuff into the garbage and
it goes to landfills. I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the ocean.


Why would you think we routinely dump our refuse into the ocean?

Are you telling me that refuse is not dumped in the ocean? What do you do
with it? I am very interested. Bottles, aluminum cans etc. What happens to
them? And plastic? Is there a website available about recycling in the UK?
Gary


Gary Davis 12-11-2004 12:52 AM

On 11/11/04 12:20 PM, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote:

The message
from Gary contains these words:

I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the ocean.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Janet.

Hi Janet,
I have been wrong so many times that it does not hurt anymore. Would you
be kind enough to enlighten me by teaching me just what/how the UK disposes
of its garbage. I already know that there are many things that cannot be
recycled in a positive way.
Gary
PS: I have changed the 'subject' to one that relates to this topic...


Franz Heymann 12-11-2004 07:19 AM


"Gary Davis" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Are you telling me that refuse is not dumped in the ocean?


Yes. That is what we are telling you. There might still be the
occasional very remote place where this still happens, but it has
ceased for all practical purposes since the EU started making noises
about the practice a few decades ago.

What do you do
with it? I am very interested. Bottles, aluminum cans etc.
What happens to them?


I put them, and also paper, in specially designated rubbish
containers provided by the local authority.

And plastic?


Search me.

Is there a website available about recycling in the UK?

Possibly. Try Googling.

Franz



Franz Heymann 12-11-2004 07:19 AM


"Gary Davis" wrote in message
...
On 11/11/04 12:20 PM, in article

,
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote:

The message
from Gary contains these words:

I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the ocean.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Janet.

Hi Janet,
I have been wrong so many times that it does not hurt anymore.

Would you
be kind enough to enlighten me by teaching me just what/how the UK

disposes
of its garbage.


From my knowledge of Janet, I doubt if she would be kind enough to
respond to you in a serious way.

I already know that there are many things that cannot be
recycled in a positive way.


Good for you. Go to the front of the class and give the teacher a
kiss.

PS: I have changed the 'subject' to one that relates to this topic...

Par for the course.

Franz



Sacha 12-11-2004 11:26 AM

On 12/11/04 12:29 am, in article , "Gary
Davis" wrote:

On 11/11/04 4:57 AM, in article , "Kay"
wrote:

In article , Gary
writes

Yes, and let us all know the results...I for one like to hear of more and
more recyclables being recycled...and not just dumped some place. In Canada
there are many restaurants that still throw the stuff into the garbage and
it goes to landfills. I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the ocean.


Why would you think we routinely dump our refuse into the ocean?

Are you telling me that refuse is not dumped in the ocean? What do you do
with it? I am very interested. Bottles, aluminum cans etc. What happens to
them? And plastic? Is there a website available about recycling in the UK?
Gary

Plastic and glass and aluminium are recycled. All councils seem to differ
in their approach but here in the South Hams we have to have 4 waste bins.
One is a food rubbish bin and takes food as well as anything which doesn't
come into the other categories. One is for old newspapers, envelopes (not
the window kind) paper generally, another is for cardboard and brown paper
envelopes etc. and yet another is for tins (washed out) and plastic bottles
without their caps. We have to take all glass to a skip and these are
usually located in local car parks or in the car park of a supermarket. The
glass is separated out into green, brown and clear.
Plastic shopping bags have either to be thrown away in the food bins - I was
surprised that they're not recycled - or used over and over again until they
fall to pieces. Some supermarkets give you a little money off your shopping
every time you re-use a bag (not necessarily theirs) and our local organic
shop asks you to donate 5p to charity each time you take a recycled bag from
their pile.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Sacha 12-11-2004 11:33 AM

On 12/11/04 12:29 am, in article , "Gary
Davis" wrote:

snip
Is there a website available about recycling in the UK?

www.recyclenow.com
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3687692.stm

There are plenty more sites if you Google.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Martin Brown 12-11-2004 01:20 PM

In message , Gary Davis
writes
On 11/11/04 12:20 PM, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote:

The message
from Gary contains these words:

I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the ocean.


I have been wrong so many times that it does not hurt anymore. Would you
be kind enough to enlighten me by teaching me just what/how the UK disposes
of its garbage.


Overall the UK is pretty bad by European standards, but still does not
throw stuff gratuitously into the ocean any more. Part of the problem is
the lazy slob like behaviour of a proportion of the population fly
tipping etc.

I already know that there are many things that cannot be
recycled in a positive way.


Even some of the things that cannot be recycled in a positive way are
best off separated from the generic landfill waste for heavy metal
toxicity etc. The rest ends up as landfill and we are rapidly running
out of space!

Incinerators tend to suffer from nimby problems and some were badly run
leading to all sorts of fume problems around them.

My own local council in North Yorkshire collects general garbage and
compostable garbage on alternate weeks (not entirely popular). They also
collect waste paper periodically at the kerbside too (today in fact).

They provide recycling centres and facilitate collection points for
glass/plastic/tins/old clothes at most large supermarkets. The best
local one will accept as separate waste streams:

Acids/Chemicals/Drugs
Asbestos
Cardboard
Dead batteries
Garden Waste
Glass/Bottles
Paper
Sump oil
Tins
White Goods
Wood

I may have missed some categories. They don't accept plastic bottles,
although the skips at a DIY store 500m down the road from them do.

That is almost as good a recycling scheme as on the continent. But
Hambleton Council are a lot better than most. I expect there is
something about their recycling scheme and environmental policy on the
website:

http://www.hambleton.gov.uk

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Joanne 12-11-2004 01:48 PM

"Gary" wrote in message
...
I would think in the UK it gets dumped in the ocean.


That's right. Also, we can't buy jam or cheese here in the UK, (told to me
by a Canadian).





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