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Rob 09-11-2002 02:30 PM

leaf mould
 
Hello all,
I want to try making some leaf mould and am in the process of collecting up
leaves around the garden. What I need to know is does it matter if there are
a few bits of twigs,stems and grass mixed in. These odd bits and pieces are
only a small amount. Will it make any overall difference to the finished
product? I know that you have to leave the gathered leaves for about a year
to compost.
Advice gratefully received.
Liz Steele



Jane Ransom 09-11-2002 04:04 PM

leaf mould
 
In article , Rob
writes
Hello all,
I want to try making some leaf mould and am in the process of collecting up
leaves around the garden. What I need to know is does it matter if there are
a few bits of twigs,stems and grass mixed in. These odd bits and pieces are
only a small amount. Will it make any overall difference to the finished
product? I know that you have to leave the gathered leaves for about a year
to compost.


Last year one of the speakers at our local horticultural society
recommended mixing a little green grass with the leaves. He reckoned it
speeded up the decomposition process!!!

We never bother to fish out any twigs - they help air circulation and
can always be fished out next year if they don't rot down :)

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Chris Stewart 09-11-2002 11:59 PM

leaf mould
 

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Hello all,
I want to try making some leaf mould and am in the process of collecting

up
leaves around the garden. What I need to know is does it matter if there

are
a few bits of twigs,stems and grass mixed in. These odd bits and pieces

are
only a small amount. Will it make any overall difference to the finished
product? I know that you have to leave the gathered leaves for about a

year
to compost.
Advice gratefully received.
Liz Steele


Hi,
The only thing it will do is lengthen the time before the composting
process is complete. I have just started using compost from a leylandi
hedge which I shredded /chipped some 3 - 4 years ago. Lovely dark brown
stuff it is too.

Chris S



david 10-11-2002 11:34 AM

leaf mould
 
Why not stuff Black refuse bags full of damp leaves, they will compost down
much faster than on a heap.
You can remove twigs etc after if they haven't composted down


--
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk



Natalie 10-11-2002 03:10 PM

leaf mould
 

"david" wrote in message
...
Why not stuff Black refuse bags full of damp leaves, they will compost

down
much faster than on a heap.
You can remove twigs etc after if they haven't composted down


Last year I collected leaves, in black plastic bags, with some of the school
children I work with. When I had a look at one of the bags last week I
discovered the leaves hadn't composted at all!

What did I do wrong?

What should I do now?

Natalie



dave @ stejonda 10-11-2002 05:57 PM

leaf mould
 
In message , Natalie
writes
Last year I collected leaves, in black plastic bags, with some of the
school children I work with. When I had a look at one of the bags last
week I discovered the leaves hadn't composted at all!


producing leaf-mould is a different, anaerobic, slower process than
normal composting

What did I do wrong?


probably nothing - were the leave damp?

What should I do now?


probably just wait

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Chris Stewart 10-11-2002 09:34 PM

leaf mould
 

"Natalie" wrote in message
...

"david" wrote in message
...
Why not stuff Black refuse bags full of damp leaves, they will compost

down
much faster than on a heap.
You can remove twigs etc after if they haven't composted down


Last year I collected leaves, in black plastic bags, with some of the

school
children I work with. When I had a look at one of the bags last week I
discovered the leaves hadn't composted at all!

What did I do wrong?

What should I do now?

Natalie


Make sure they are kept wet, and if you can persuade anyone to pee on them,
then that woould be good too, I'm sure - more for entertainment than
anything else, mind.

Chris S



cormaic 11-11-2002 03:27 PM

leaf mould
 
'Twas Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:10:22 -0000, when "Natalie"
enriched all our lives with these worthy
thoughts:

Last year I collected leaves, in black plastic bags, with some of the school
children I work with. When I had a look at one of the bags last week I
discovered the leaves hadn't composted at all!

What did I do wrong?

What should I do now?


Keep 'em damp and consider investing 3 quid in an 'activator'.
I use the Biotal one for oak leaves, which are notoriously stubborn
when it comes to decomposition, and that gives me the magic mulch for
me begonias in around 18 months rather than the 3-5 years it would
normally take.

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DaveDay34 11-11-2002 08:59 PM

leaf mould
 
Make sure they are kept wet, and if you can persuade anyone to pee on them,
then that woould be good too, I'm sure - more for entertainment than
anything else, mind.

Chris S


Peeing on the leaves is a way of adding urea to the leaves as well as making
them moist. The leaves break down quicker if they are wet because
bacteria/fungi don't like to be too dry. Bacteria use up nitrates (nitrogen)
when they break down vegetable matter into compost so adding urea adds nitrates
which feeds the bacteria and speeds up the decomposition process.

I hope this explains a few things and is helpful. Happy composting.

Dave.

Natalie 11-11-2002 09:25 PM

leaf mould
 

"Chris Stewart" wrote in message
...

"Natalie" wrote in message
...

"david" wrote in message
...
Why not stuff Black refuse bags full of damp leaves, they will compost

down
much faster than on a heap.
You can remove twigs etc after if they haven't composted down


Last year I collected leaves, in black plastic bags, with some of the

school
children I work with. When I had a look at one of the bags last week I
discovered the leaves hadn't composted at all!

What did I do wrong?

What should I do now?

Natalie


Make sure they are kept wet, and if you can persuade anyone to pee on

them,
then that woould be good too, I'm sure - more for entertainment than
anything else, mind.

Chris S



The leaves should be wet because they are in plastic bags that have holes in
them and we have had a lot of rain lately!

As the bags of leaves are in a primary school garden, there is no shortage
of boys to pee on them...but I don't know what my Head Teacher would think
of it ;-)

I'll leave them until the Spring and see if they have made any more
progress.

Natalie



K 12-11-2002 10:52 AM

leaf mould
 

"Natalie" wrote in message
...
:
: The leaves should be wet because they are in plastic bags that have holes
in
: them and we have had a lot of rain lately!
:
: As the bags of leaves are in a primary school garden, there is no shortage
: of boys to pee on them...but I don't know what my Head Teacher would think
: of it ;-)
:
: I'll leave them until the Spring and see if they have made any more
: progress.
:
: Natalie
:
What about the girls? I thought sexual discrimination was banned in schools
:O))



Jane Ransom 12-11-2002 11:17 AM

leaf mould
 
In article , K
writes
What about the girls?


Only if they are pre pubic!!
Too much oestrogen getting into our water systems as it is!!!!!!

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason,
put jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see deadspam.com



Natalie 13-11-2002 06:27 PM

leaf mould
 

"K" wrote in message
...

"Natalie" wrote in message
...
:
: The leaves should be wet because they are in plastic bags that have

holes
in
: them and we have had a lot of rain lately!
:
: As the bags of leaves are in a primary school garden, there is no

shortage
: of boys to pee on them...but I don't know what my Head Teacher would

think
: of it ;-)
:
: I'll leave them until the Spring and see if they have made any more
: progress.
:
: Natalie
:
What about the girls? I thought sexual discrimination was banned in

schools
:O))


There is nothing like positive descrimination ;-)

Boys tend to know exactly what to do...they like something to aim for! We'd
probably have too many wet knickers if we let the girls have a go ;-)

Natalie




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