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Can I turf my patio?
My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house with
no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? (I hear decking is out of fashion?!) There is a drop from the back door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. Thank you! |
"backy" wrote in message om... My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house with no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? (I hear decking is out of fashion?!) There is a drop from the back door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. Thank you! Without any drainage from the patio i suspect you would have a muddy pit in the winter and if you are contemplating bringing in the amount of topsiol to cover 1ft deep that could be just as grim as digging up some of the patio |
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om... My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house with no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? (I hear decking is out of fashion?!) There is a drop from the back door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. Thank you! You would need a good depth of soil to turf it and as someone has already said, that is a 'transport through the house' problem. I am not a 'plant' gardener, but two ideas come to mind, one a very simple one. (Depending on the area) Lay a covering of gravel, not pea gravel or it will be the neighbourhood's cat's toilet. This can be purchased/delivered in bags which can be walked through the house, then place planters or pots for plants and colour. The second idea is a lot more labour intensive and that is to lay a good thickness of sand, tamp it down and slab over with attractive slabs. You still have a patio which is attractive and hard wearing. AND the cat won't use it. This idea I used in part of our back garden last year, but I was able to get rid of the rough concrete which was there. I had to retain the original height because of the new patio doors which were fitted. Mike -- H.M.S.Collingwood Ass. Llandudno 20 - 23 May Trip to Portmeirion National Service (RAF) Ass. Cosford 24 - 27 June Lanc Bomber Fly Past H.M.S.Impregnable Ass. Sussex 1 - 3 July Visit to Int. Fest of the Sea British Pacific Fleet. Derby 2 - 5 Sept. Visit to Denby Pottery |
"nambucca" wrote in message ... "backy" wrote in message om... My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house with no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? (I hear decking is out of fashion?!) There is a drop from the back door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. Thank you! Without any drainage from the patio i suspect you would have a muddy pit in the winter and if you are contemplating bringing in the amount of topsiol to cover 1ft deep that could be just as grim as digging up some of the patio Having no grass can be an advantage! how about taking up some slabs and setting them edgeways in to make some raised beds, planting them up. with a bit of planning it could look quite good and no grass to cut. To answer your original question I would think turf over slabs would be unlikely to succeed but maybe someone else knows otherwise :~) -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs) |
"backy" wrote in message om... My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house with no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? Not really. You are likely to end up with a bog. (I hear decking is out of fashion?!) For which we are truly thankful. There is a drop from the back door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. Thank you! I laid paving stones over the concrete path along the rear wall of our house. It works just fine. Franz |
"backy" wrote in message om... My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house with no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? (I hear decking is out of fashion?!) There is a drop from the back door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. Thank you! How about that fake grass you can get? Astroturf kind? Just because green is better than grey so it might be more pleasant to look at. -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
Mike wrote:
"backy" wrote in message om... My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house with no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? (I hear decking is out of fashion?!) There is a drop from the back door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. Thank you! You would need a good depth of soil to turf it and as someone has already said, that is a 'transport through the house' problem. I am not a 'plant' gardener, but two ideas come to mind, one a very simple one. (Depending on the area) Lay a covering of gravel, not pea gravel or it will be the neighbourhood's cat's toilet. This can be purchased/delivered in bags which can be walked through the house, then place planters or pots for plants and colour. The second idea is a lot more labour intensive and that is to lay a good thickness of sand, tamp it down and slab over with attractive slabs. You still have a patio which is attractive and hard wearing. AND the cat won't use it. This idea I used in part of our back garden last year, but I was able to get rid of the rough concrete which was there. I had to retain the original height because of the new patio doors which were fitted. Mike -- H.M.S.Collingwood Ass. Llandudno 20 - 23 May Trip to Portmeirion National Service (RAF) Ass. Cosford 24 - 27 June Lanc Bomber Fly Past H.M.S.Impregnable Ass. Sussex 1 - 3 July Visit to Int. Fest of the Sea British Pacific Fleet. Derby 2 - 5 Sept. Visit to Denby Pottery We have a large paving slab patio in out back garden (20x 12), and we have put lots of varying sized pots/plants around the edges and in corners to give colour, and reduce the mass of grey area. Then when we get the barby out in the summer? and tables and chairs, you can hardly see the grey floor. -- Bob H Leeds UK |
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" wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:19:35 +0000, Sacha wrote: snip And yes, decking is on its way out. perhaps the increase in driftwood has something to do with decking being on it's way out on the ebb tide? I'm trying to imagine roughing up decking to look like interesting bits of driftwood and all I come up with is an imagination full of splinters.... -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:27:06 +0000, Sacha wrote: On 11/12/04 15:20, in article , " wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:19:35 +0000, Sacha wrote: snip And yes, decking is on its way out. perhaps the increase in driftwood has something to do with decking being on it's way out on the ebb tide? I'm trying to imagine roughing up decking to look like interesting bits of driftwood and all I come up with is an imagination full of splinters.... me too :-) I visualised somebody in Leeds looking for driftwood in the gutter Hey, it wasn't me you visualised was it? -- Bob H Leeds UK |
Sand Blast it. The grit takes out the soft wood and leaves a very attractive
pattern in sympathy with the grain -- H.M.S.Collingwood Ass. Llandudno 20 - 23 May Trip to Portmeirion National Service (RAF) Ass. Cosford 24 - 27 June Lanc Bomber Fly Past H.M.S.Impregnable Ass. Sussex 1 - 3 July Visit to Int. Fest of the Sea British Pacific Fleet. Derby 2 - 5 Sept. Visit to Denby Pottery "Sacha" wrote in message k... On 11/12/04 15:20, in article , " wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:19:35 +0000, Sacha wrote: snip And yes, decking is on its way out. perhaps the increase in driftwood has something to do with decking being on it's way out on the ebb tide? I'm trying to imagine roughing up decking to look like interesting bits of driftwood and all I come up with is an imagination full of splinters.... -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
I visualised somebody in Leeds looking for driftwood in the gutter -- ? Global Warming? |
wrote in message ... On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:07:34 -0000, "Tumbleweed" wrote: How about that fake grass you can get? Astroturf kind? Just because green is better than grey so it might be more pleasant to look at. and use a vacuum cleaner NOT a lawn mower. Well you can use a lawn mower.....but only once -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
backy wrote:
:: My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house :: with no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it :: feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? (I :: hear decking is out of fashion?!) There is a drop from the back :: door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. :: Thank you! Yes, it's perfectly feasable to turf over concrete and I have done it sucessfully numerous times, all you need to do is provide drainage...hire a breaker or employ a young person with a sledgehammer and break up the concrete all over, you want a cracked ice effect if possible or a rubble effect better still, you don't need to lift the concrete out, cover with an inch of sand and a few inches of soil and lay turf as normal...it may dry out quite easily in summer, use a sprinkler or leave a hosepipe running overnight. |
In message , Phil L
writes backy wrote: :: My garden looks like a pub car park. I live in a terraced house :: with no rear access so removing the huge patio would be grim. Is it :: feasable to turf concrete or does anyone have any other ideas? (I :: hear decking is out of fashion?!) There is a drop from the back :: door to the patio so I have about a foot to play with. :: Thank you! Yes, it's perfectly feasable to turf over concrete and I have done it sucessfully numerous times, all you need to do is provide drainage...hire a breaker or employ a young person with a sledgehammer and break up the concrete all over, you want a cracked ice effect if possible or a rubble effect better still, you don't need to lift the concrete out, cover with an inch of sand and a few inches of soil and lay turf as normal...it may dry out quite easily in summer, use a sprinkler or leave a hosepipe running overnight. Before you start adding top soil check the position of your damp course. That foot drop may be there for a good reason. -- hugh Reply to address is valid at the time of posting |
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