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Wasps nest in the attic
The wasps will be long dead by this time of year.
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Wasps nest in the attic
No rule says they will die in the winter. We had damn great big ones
periodically all last winter from our roof-space Suggest expert removal of nest for peace of mind unless TOTALLY defunct. -- Peter Stockdale Nanneys Bridge - S.U.C. (M.A.) wrote in message ... Hi, I've had a wasps nest in a very tight space within my attic roof void. I'm wondering when the wasps will leave it and fly off. I need to get up there and do some maintainance before the winter but dont want to be attacked. I cant get to the nest to spray it either. Can anyone help? Thanks |
Wasps nest in the attic
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Wasps nest in the attic
"Peter Crosland" wrote in message ... The wasps will be long dead by this time of year. You wish. We waited and waited while the roof leaked close to the nest. 10 days ago we got fed up waiting and called in Rentokil. Very efficient, very friendly. Wasp's nest(s) was biggest guy had ever seen. About 4-5 feet long and over a foot across. Even after he had sprayed loft, injected nest and then removed nest complete with large numbers of still live grubs we had to spray in the loft a couple of times to kill leftovers. This weekend I know have to trace the leak. Martin R |
Wasps nest in the attic
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:52:01 -0000, "BAC"
wrote: I live in a bungalo (50 years old) with a couple of dormer bedrooms (10 years old) that were added by the previous owner. From the outside i can see the wasps going in under the slates on the verticle wall on the sides of the dormer windows. Inside the house if i put my ear to the wall I can hear a loud buzzing noise all along the inside if the wall. Inside the roof void I need to lay some electrical cable ready for when the electrician is coming over next week to fit some lights. Over the past few weeks the wasps inside the house have been getting bigger & bigger but for the past couple of days I've not seen any inside the house. wrote in message .. . Hi, I've had a wasps nest in a very tight space within my attic roof void. I'm wondering when the wasps will leave it and fly off. I need to get up there and do some maintainance before the winter but dont want to be attacked. I cant get to the nest to spray it either. Can anyone help? Your local pest control contractors can help, at a price, if the nest remains active. It should be deserted by now (late November), since the queen should die in autumn, rapidly followed by the workers, and next year's queens should have found suitable hibernation sites. If you have not noticed any wasp activity recently, it's probably OK. However, as the only way to tell for sure is to get up there and investigate, which is what you are wary of, you may be advised to phone a local contractor and ask for advice/help. |
Wasps nest in the attic
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:45:39 +0000 (UTC), "PaulK"
wrote: Paul, I can see where they are getting in. They go in via the outside wall of a dormer window, they look to go in under the tiles. I have used 3 cans of the wasp nest destroyer foam but if I put my ear to the wall inside the dormer window there is still a very loud buzzing noise. i even tried drilling a hole through the wall & spraying the foam in but no joy, theye are still there. wrote in message .. . Hi, I've had a wasps nest in a very tight space within my attic roof void. I'm wondering when the wasps will leave it and fly off. I need to get up there and do some maintainance before the winter but dont want to be attacked. I cant get to the nest to spray it either. Can anyone help? Can you see where they wasps are getting in to access the nest? Can you get to that point an puff in a liberal dose of ant powder? pk |
Wasps nest in the attic
wrote in message ... Hi, I've had a wasps nest in a very tight space within my attic roof void. I'm wondering when the wasps will leave it and fly off. I need to get up there and do some maintainance before the winter but dont want to be attacked. I cant get to the nest to spray it either. Can anyone help? I would have thought that at this time of year the nest will be empty, all the wasps except the queens will have died and the queens will have flown away to hibernate. Alan -- Reply to alan(at)windsor-berks(dot)freeserve(dot)co(dot)uk Thanks |
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Wasps nest in the attic
In article , Peter Stockdale writes wrote in message .. . Hi, I've had a wasps nest in a very tight space within my attic roof void. I'm wondering when the wasps will leave it and fly off. I need to get up there and do some maintainance before the winter but dont want to be attacked. I cant get to the nest to spray it either. Can anyone help? Thanks No rule says they will die in the winter. We had damn great big ones periodically all last winter from our roof-space Suggest expert removal of nest for peace of mind unless TOTALLY defunct. The "damn great big ones" will be the queens hibernating until the following spring. Each one you kill will be one less nest next summer. They don't usually hibernate in the old nest. -- Malcolm |
Wasps nest in the attic
"Peter Stockdale" wrote in message
... No rule says they will die in the winter. We had damn great big ones periodically all last winter from our roof-space Suggest expert removal of nest for peace of mind unless TOTALLY defunct. The few large wasps you see are the mated queens who are looking to overwinter in a convenient spot. If you can individually kill these with a simple fly/wasp killer aerosol can then there will be less nests next year. Removing the nest now will have no effect since the nests are not re-used. There may be some late hatching grubs but these will soon starve because there are no workers to feed them. Any competant and honest pest control operative will confirm this. Unless the wasps arecausing an actual physical problem by the proximity of the nest entrance then it is far better to leave them alone. They are a useful pest controler in the garden. |
Wasps nest in the attic
Is it possible that the queens will hibernate in the roof void or
inside the house? Will I be able to see these sites, so i can get to the queens & move them or kill them once they are in hibernation? I'm worried of having 1 nest this year & 10 next year!! |
Wasps nest in the attic
In article ,
wrote: Is it possible that the queens will hibernate in the roof void or inside the house? Yes. But don't worry about it. Will I be able to see these sites, so i can get to the queens & move them or kill them once they are in hibernation? If you search VERY carefully, maybe. I'm worried of having 1 nest this year & 10 next year!! Don't worry about it. I can't tell you what controls the wasp population, but they don't spread in that way. Regard them as just something you have to live with, and deal with only the nests that cause serious inconvenience. Regards, Nick Maclaren, University of Cambridge Computing Service, New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email: Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679 |
Wasps nest in the attic
"Peter Crosland" wrote:
The wasps will be long dead by this time of year. Oh dear. How wrong can you be? I listened to this advice from someone else some months ago. I wish I never had, for it had almost tragic consequences. |
Wasps nest in the attic
"Grahame Fendle" wrote in message ... "Peter Crosland" wrote: The wasps will be long dead by this time of year. Oh dear. How wrong can you be? I listened to this advice from someone else some months ago. I wish I never had, for it had almost tragic consequences. I think that anyone who has a need to disturb a wasp's nest inside their home, is not 100% certain it is inactive, and is not 100% certain they can deal with it safely if it is active, should seek expert assistance and advice - either from their local authority or a 'private' pest control company. |
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"BAC" wrote:
I think that anyone who has a need to disturb a wasp's nest inside their home, is not 100% certain it is inactive, and is not 100% certain they can deal with it safely if it is active, should seek expert assistance and advice - either from their local authority or a 'private' pest control company. I totally and utterly agree. |
Wasps nest in the attic
wrote in message ... Hi, I've had a wasps nest in a very tight space within my attic roof void. I'm wondering when the wasps will leave it and fly off. I need to get up there and do some maintainance before the winter but dont want to be attacked. I cant get to the nest to spray it either. Can anyone help? Your local pest control contractors can help, at a price, if the nest remains active. It should be deserted by now (late November), since the queen should die in autumn, rapidly followed by the workers, and next year's queens should have found suitable hibernation sites. If you have not noticed any wasp activity recently, it's probably OK. However, as the only way to tell for sure is to get up there and investigate, which is what you are wary of, you may be advised to phone a local contractor and ask for advice/help. |
Wasps nest in the attic
In article , sacha writes: | in article , Grahame Fendle at | wrote on 25/11/02 11:24 am: | "Peter Crosland" wrote: | | The wasps will be long dead by this time of year. | | Oh dear. How wrong can you be? | | I listened to this advice from someone else some months ago. I wish I never | had, for it had almost tragic consequences. | | I must agree with this. I think that when someone makes that comment, they | should add the rider "depending where you live". In the milder parts of | Britain, my experience is that they most definitely do NOT die off in | winter. Even in Cambridge, we have had only one mild frost. The mistake here is following the rigid rule-book approach so beloved of most gardening writers and almost all bureaucrats. We should judge the passing of the seasons from observational cues and not the calendar. Regards, Nick Maclaren, University of Cambridge Computing Service, New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email: Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679 |
Wasps nest in the attic
"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , sacha writes: | in article , Grahame Fendle at | wrote on 25/11/02 11:24 am: | "Peter Crosland" wrote: | | The wasps will be long dead by this time of year. | | Oh dear. How wrong can you be? | | I listened to this advice from someone else some months ago. I wish I never | had, for it had almost tragic consequences. | | I must agree with this. I think that when someone makes that comment, they | should add the rider "depending where you live". In the milder parts of | Britain, my experience is that they most definitely do NOT die off in | winter. Even in Cambridge, we have had only one mild frost. The mistake here is following the rigid rule-book approach so beloved of most gardening writers and almost all bureaucrats. We should judge the passing of the seasons from observational cues and not the calendar. That depends on what triggers a particular organism's response to the changing seasons. With those that die in winter because they cannot tolerate frosts, 'winter' starts with the first frosts. With those that change because of length of day, for instance, they will follow the calendar almost irrespective of the weather. I don't know for sure what governs the wasp's life cycle, but I wouldn't assume a nest 'must' be dead just because it is autumn outside. Assumption is the mother of all cock ups :-) |
Wasps nest in the attic
wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:52:01 -0000, "BAC" wrote: I live in a bungalo (50 years old) with a couple of dormer bedrooms (10 years old) that were added by the previous owner. From the outside i can see the wasps going in under the slates on the verticle wall on the sides of the dormer windows. Inside the house if i put my ear to the wall I can hear a loud buzzing noise all along the inside if the wall. Inside the roof void I need to lay some electrical cable ready for when the electrician is coming over next week to fit some lights. Over the past few weeks the wasps inside the house have been getting bigger & bigger but for the past couple of days I've not seen any inside the house. The bigger wasps may well be queens looking for suitable hibernation sites. If you can still hear buzzing, or detect activity, then, obviously, the nest is still active. If you consult Yellow Pages, you should find a choice of contractors able to SAFELY destroy and remove the nest. |
Wasps nest in the attic
In article , "BAC" writes: | | Even in Cambridge, we have had only one mild frost. The mistake | here is following the rigid rule-book approach so beloved of most | gardening writers and almost all bureaucrats. We should judge | the passing of the seasons from observational cues and not the | calendar. | | That depends on what triggers a particular organism's response to the | changing seasons. With those that die in winter because they cannot tolerate | frosts, 'winter' starts with the first frosts. With those that change | because of length of day, for instance, they will follow the calendar almost | irrespective of the weather. More-or-less, except that many of those are also affect by light levels, which can vary by a factor of 2 in a given month depending on the weather. | I don't know for sure what governs the wasp's life cycle, but I wouldn't | assume a nest 'must' be dead just because it is autumn outside. Assumption | is the mother of all cock ups :-) Yes, indeed. Regards, Nick Maclaren, University of Cambridge Computing Service, New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email: Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679 |
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sacha wrote:
I must agree with this. I think that when someone makes that comment, they should add the rider "depending where you live". In the milder parts of Britain, my experience is that they most definitely do NOT die off in winter. Total agreement from me. The wasps nesting my house have only just left, within the last week in fact, and I'll be sure that if I ever have another nest in the house, it will be destroyed immediately. We've had a complete nightmare here, it's been horrendous. |
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In article , sacha
writes in article , Grahame Fendle at wrote on 25/11/02 11:24 am: "Peter Crosland" wrote: The wasps will be long dead by this time of year. Oh dear. How wrong can you be? I listened to this advice from someone else some months ago. I wish I never had, for it had almost tragic consequences. I must agree with this. I think that when someone makes that comment, they should add the rider "depending where you live". In the milder parts of Britain, my experience is that they most definitely do NOT die off in winter. In New Zealand, wasp nests have become a serious problem in the milder areas. North of Auckland there have been examples of active nests persisting for several seasons and becoming huge - literally metres across. In Bedfordshire I find they are not too difficult to deal with. If you need to kill one off it is easy to wait until nightfall and then use powdered insecticide on the insects route to and from the nest. They take it in with them next day, and a couple of days usually sees the nests demise. I have found though that usually it is best to leave them alone. They are good for pest control (aphids etc) and I have also noticed that wasps from a nest in our roof tend not to bother us, but go further afield and therefore grant us some degree of immunity. I speak as someone who has something of a phobia of wasps, but has learned to live with them. We get a nest pretty much every year somewhere in our roof, but for several years have ignored them. Until this last summer that is, when during some decorating I managed to poke a screwdriver through the ceiling, straight into a nest which I'd forgotten about. That was exciting because when I withdrew the screwdriver they came out like a fire hose, but I still managed to avoid being stung (though the room was unusable for 48 hrs), and applied the above remedy. Hornets are the things to beware of. Trouble on an altogether different scale. -- Jim A |
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On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:01:08 +0000, Jim A wrote:
Hornets are the things to beware of. Trouble on an altogether different scale. But normally a nest only has a hundred or so, not the thousands of a wasps nest. Trouble with hornets is that there is something about human breath that drives 'em beserk. Never breath on a hornet. At least thats what the handler said when filming some a year or so back. -- Cheers Dave. Remove "spam" for valid email. |
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In article , Jim A writes Hornets are the things to beware of. Trouble on an altogether different scale. The scale may be different, but everyone I've met who has had experience of hornets has found them much less aggressive than wasps. It sounds as if your experience is different. -- Malcolm |
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"Jim A" wrote in message ... In article , sacha writes in article , Grahame Fendle at snip Hornets are the things to beware of. Trouble on an altogether different scale. Most authorities claim hornets are usually less aggressive than common wasps, and I've never had any trouble with them (in my admittedly limited experience - fortunately, I've never disturbed a hornet's nest, and have no wish to do so) but all nests of stinging social insects like wasps, hornets, or bees, should be treated with utmost respect, IMHO, assuming you know they are there, of course. There's no legislating for accidents. |
Wasps nest in the attic
Jim A wrote:
I have found though that usually it is best to leave them alone. They are good for pest control (aphids etc) and I have also noticed that wasps from a nest in our roof tend not to bother us, but go further afield and therefore grant us some degree of immunity. I speak as someone who has something of a phobia of wasps, but has learned to live Whilst I agree with this in principle, it is my experience that as time goes by they become more bothersome. I realise that every case is unique, but in our case we had a real problem with wasps appearing in almost every room in the house, and then finding somewhere warm - usually a bed, or a bag. Not nice to go to bed, having to pull back sheets and pillows, and still find that one has managed to hide itself away somewhere. Our nest was, I think, hidden in the cavity wall somewhere. Despite sealing various holes around radiator pipes and so on, they still managed to propogate to the kitchen which is one floor below and two rooms way! I for one won't be tolerating another nest in the house. :-( |
Wasps nest in the attic
In article , BAC
writes "Jim A" wrote in message ... In article , sacha writes in article , Grahame Fendle at snip Hornets are the things to beware of. Trouble on an altogether different scale. Most authorities claim hornets are usually less aggressive than common wasps, and I've never had any trouble with them (in my admittedly limited experience - fortunately, I've never disturbed a hornet's nest, and have no wish to do so) but all nests of stinging social insects like wasps, hornets, or bees, should be treated with utmost respect, IMHO, assuming you know they are there, of course. There's no legislating for accidents. I saw half a dozen hornets really go for someone about ten years ago. Not a pretty sight and he got three stings. Unfortunately as seems to often be the case a hornet sting means a visit to A & E, and he was kept in overnight. -- Jim A |
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:15:35 +0000, Jim A
wrote: I saw half a dozen hornets really go for someone about ten years ago. Not a pretty sight and he got three stings. Unfortunately as seems to often be the case a hornet sting means a visit to A & E, and he was kept in overnight. Would you happen to know the formal Latin epithet for these hornets? I gather that the "European hornet" (what I suppose you are referring to) is quite different from what we call hornets here. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada |
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In article ,
Rodger Whitlock wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:15:35 +0000, Jim A wrote: I saw half a dozen hornets really go for someone about ten years ago. Not a pretty sight and he got three stings. Unfortunately as seems to often be the case a hornet sting means a visit to A & E, and he was kept in overnight. Would you happen to know the formal Latin epithet for these hornets? I gather that the "European hornet" (what I suppose you are referring to) is quite different from what we call hornets here. Vespa crabro. Regards, Nick Maclaren, University of Cambridge Computing Service, New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email: Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679 |
Wasps nest in the attic
"Jim A" wrote in message ... In article , BAC writes "Jim A" wrote in message ... In article , sacha writes in article , Grahame Fendle at snip Hornets are the things to beware of. Trouble on an altogether different scale. Most authorities claim hornets are usually less aggressive than common wasps, and I've never had any trouble with them (in my admittedly limited experience - fortunately, I've never disturbed a hornet's nest, and have no wish to do so) but all nests of stinging social insects like wasps, hornets, or bees, should be treated with utmost respect, IMHO, assuming you know they are there, of course. There's no legislating for accidents. I saw half a dozen hornets really go for someone about ten years ago. Not a pretty sight and he got three stings. Unfortunately as seems to often be the case a hornet sting means a visit to A & E, and he was kept in overnight. I was not implying hornets are harmless, if you are unfortunate enough to be stung, rather that hornets are less likely to sting than their smaller relatives. There are people who exhibit anaphylaxis even to wasp stings, one or two causing severe problems, even death. These creatures should be treated with respect. |
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