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Old 12-01-2005, 10:48 AM
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In article ,
Duncan Heenan wrote:
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:: As you are an American, I suggest that as someone has upset you,
:: you bomb the hell out of them, invade their garden, occupy it,
:: take their natural resources to pay for the damage, and then
:: insist that they thank you for showing them the American Way.
:: Have a nice day y'all.

Just like Britain did with India, Burma, Australia, America, Canada etc


And that was wrong too. And those people complained too. And were ignored
too. And so turned in to 'terrorists' too and bit the arse of the aggressors
too.


That is revisionist propaganda. There was SOME of that, but there
were also many cases where the government was competent and not
excessively greedy - in the latter cases, there was rarely any major
independence movement and almost never a 'terrorist' one. A large
proportion of the ex-Empire had to be persuaded to accept independence
and some has still not done so.

However, in the cases where Britain DID bomb the hell out of the
inhabitants and generally treat them like dirt, there WAS considerable
resistance to the occupation.

Is that so surprising?

The main lesson of history is that no-one learns from it.


That is true.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:36 PM
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snip In article ,
Duncan Heenan wrote:
::
:: As you are an American, I suggest that as someone has upset you,
:: you bomb the hell out of them, invade their garden, occupy it,
:: take their natural resources to pay for the damage, and then
:: insist that they thank you for showing them the American Way.
:: Have a nice day y'all.

Just like Britain did with India, Burma, Australia, America, Canada etc


And that was wrong too. And those people complained too. And were ignored
too. And so turned in to 'terrorists' too and bit the arse of the
aggressors
too.


That is revisionist propaganda. There was SOME of that, but there
were also many cases where the government was competent and not
excessively greedy - in the latter cases, there was rarely any major
independence movement and almost never a 'terrorist' one. A large
proportion of the ex-Empire had to be persuaded to accept independence
and some has still not done so.

However, in the cases where Britain DID bomb the hell out of the
inhabitants and generally treat them like dirt, there WAS considerable
resistance to the occupation.

Is that so surprising?

The main lesson of history is that no-one learns from it.


That is true.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I think you'll find that the incomers to the USA in the 18th & especially
19th Century met considerable resistance from the indigenous inhabitants,
who on the whole were either slaughtered or ghettoised. The genocide of the
American Indians is one of the great injustices of human history, which too
many people seem to want to forget.




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Old 12-01-2005, 05:52 PM
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You've had your two cents worth and more. And now ou are trolling IMO.
What a surprise. Ask these questions in USA. What is legal in UK is of no
importance to your (apparent) problem.


But now my curiousity is piqued, so you'll have to forgive me. My post was
titled "legal/ethical dilemma" and one of your countrymen said I was lucky
that my neighbors didn't poison my plants. Excuse me for asking, but is such
a thing legal or ethical in your country?


It isn't legal.
It isn't ethical, but then neither is allowing plants in your garden to
impede others in the enjoyment of theirs - hence our legislation over
high hedges.

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Old 14-01-2005, 11:59 PM
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No, Janet, you are wrong. You are focusing on one small part of my post

and
pretending it is the reason for my post.

My problem, as Alan and others have already pointed out to you and Kay, is
one of gardening etiquette and neighbor relations. I've already said that
the laws in the U.K. do not apply in the USA. I'm looking for opinions,

not
legal advice.

Thanks anyway, and have a great day

My own opinion is that if the vine is vigourous and indeed strangling your
neighbours plants, then yes you should either trim the thing or get rid of
it. The choice of plant was yours, and should not be inflicted on your
neighbours nor allowed to damage anything that they plant. Just because you
think it is beautiful doesn't mean that your neighbours have the same
opinion.


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Thanks for your warm welcome, Duncan.


Why do you imagine anyone here should welcome you? I happened to think
Duncan's post was amusing and had a ring of truth to it.




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Old 15-01-2005, 07:35 PM
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Please don't assume that Tony Blair speaks and acts for all of us.


And we won't assume that Harrie or Willie or Eddie VIII acted for all of you.

Now, refresh my memory, the Windors changed their name from Saxe-Coburg Gotha
for what reason?

On the other hand, the honourable mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, has yet
again defended the Muslim "scholar" Yusuf al-Qaradawi, perhaps he acted for all
of you.

At least in this country I have the liberty to criticise a religion and protect
my family within my home without the threat of going to jail.

The United Kingdom of Eurabia, indeed.
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Old 16-01-2005, 07:53 PM
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Actually, Sally, he does speak for all of you. That's what elected officials
do..





Please don't assume that Tony Blair speaks and acts for all of us.




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Old 16-01-2005, 11:11 PM
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"Michelle C" wrote in message
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Please don't assume that Tony Blair speaks and acts for all of us.


Actually, Sally, he does speak for all of you. That's what elected

officials
do..


Michelle, you are no longer welcome in urg. Why don't you go and
annoy your neighbours instead?

Franz


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Old 17-01-2005, 01:35 PM
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"Michelle C" wrote in message
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Actually, Sally, he does speak for all of you. That's what elected
officials do..


Then we're right to assume that George Dubbya speaks for you.
You're an even bigger idiot than him then.
Go and troll in America - this is a UK group.




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Old 17-01-2005, 10:22 PM
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Nice one Michelle!

The sad fact is that those whiners who now don't like Tony Blair anymore
probably voted for the man in the first place. Twice! *******.

Dean.

"Michelle C" wrote in message
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Actually, Sally, he does speak for all of you. That's what elected

officials
do..





Please don't assume that Tony Blair speaks and acts for all of us.






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Old 18-01-2005, 01:01 PM
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I'm British, born and bred

And proud of it, here, here.

Unfortunately Dean, EU stands for Eurabia and the way it is going it will be
the United Kingdom of Eurabia soon. Remove yourselves from commie (shame) led
London. Your liberties are under attack, from within and from across the
channel.
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Old 18-01-2005, 01:18 PM
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In article , IntarsiaCo
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And proud of it, here, here.

I really *must* resist the temptation to comment on declining standards
in the use of the English language.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Old 18-01-2005, 01:34 PM
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In article ,
Kay writes:
| In article , IntarsiaCo
| writes
|
| And proud of it, here, here.
|
| I really *must* resist the temptation to comment on declining standards
| in the use of the English language.

Yes, trolls are ineducable.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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here, here.

Hear, hear, I stand corrected.


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