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gray 15-01-2005 04:33 PM

Help identifing seed plz
 
Any ideas of the following seeds that were given to me this autumn

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed1.jpg

and

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed2.jpg and the leaf was green when
picked.

Charlie Pridham 16-01-2005 08:43 AM


"gray" wrote in message
...
Any ideas of the following seeds that were given to me this autumn

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed1.jpg

and


Looks a bit like beech tree seeds
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
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Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed2.jpg and the leaf was green when
picked.




Kay 16-01-2005 09:06 AM

In article , Charlie
Pridham writes

"gray" wrote in message
.. .
Any ideas of the following seeds that were given to me this autumn

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed1.jpg

and


Looks a bit like beech tree seeds


It's not Fagus sylvatica though, because the outer case doesn't have
'spines' and the seeds themselves aren't triangular.

It looks very familiar, but I can't think what - I did have a wild guess
of magnolia, but googling suggests that's rubbish. It's something
equally obvious, I think, and it's infuriating that I can't remember!
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


JennyC 16-01-2005 10:03 AM


"gray" wrote in message
...
Any ideas of the following seeds that were given to me this autumn

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed1.jpg

and

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed2.jpg and the leaf was green when
picked.



Google (seed identification) threw up this:
http://www.seedimages.com/seed-identification.html

HTH Jenny



David Hill 16-01-2005 03:23 PM

Playing with the first picture I get the feeling that the seed is almost
flat with a papery surround like some of conifer seed such as Cypress.

--
David Hill

www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk



gray 16-01-2005 05:31 PM


I have now taken the seed out of
http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed2.jpg and have found it to
somewhat similar to a small walnut seed but a with very much rounded 6
lobed star crosssection.
I believe that this could be Davidia involucrata or the "Handkerchief
Tree".

Can anyone confirm ???

The seed of http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed1.jpg are paper thin
almost like a fir tree, but rounded like an 'honesty' seed with the
seed part offset to the side. The seed head is somewhat similar to a
beech seed head, but think of it like a 'Terrys chocolate orange' and
in between the segments are these thin seeds.


Rod 16-01-2005 06:35 PM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:33:20 GMT, gray wrote:

Any ideas of the following seeds that were given to me this autumn

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed1.jpg

and

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed2.jpg and the leaf was green when
picked.


It would help us narrow things down a bit if we had some idea of the
provenance of the seeds. Seed 2 looks like it could be some sort of
Hickory (Carya spp.) Try this for starters
http://www.cas.vanderbilt.edu/bioima...-hickories.htm

=================================================

Rod

Weed my email address to reply.
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

gray 16-01-2005 08:40 PM

All the seeds have come from a UK garden, but may be of world wide
origin ???


It would help us narrow things down a bit if we had some idea of the
provenance of the seeds. Seed 2 looks like it could be some sort of
Hickory (Carya spp.) Try this for starters
http://www.cas.vanderbilt.edu/bioima...-hickories.htm

=============================================== ==

Rod

Weed my email address to reply.
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html



Janet Tweedy 17-01-2005 12:21 AM

In article , Kay
writes


Looks a bit like beech tree seeds


It's not Fagus sylvatica though, because the outer case doesn't have
'spines' and the seeds themselves aren't triangular.

It looks very familiar, but I can't think what - I did have a wild guess
of magnolia, but googling suggests that's rubbish. It's something
equally obvious, I think, and it's infuriating that I can't remember!


From my book trees and shrubs of UK and Europe it looks similar to a
spindle tree (broad leaved one) a Rockrose and a broad leaved lime!
Mind you they are drawings............

Janet

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Pam Moore 17-01-2005 04:03 PM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:33:20 GMT, gray wrote:

Any ideas of the following seeds that were given to me this autumn

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed1.jpg


How tough is the case of this one? If woody I have no idea. If thin
and fragile it looks a bit like the "shoo-fly" plant, nicandra, but my
sight is so dodgy I can't see the details. Also looks a bit like a
Chinese Lantern, but are the 2 small things on the left seeds? If so
no idea.

Pam in Bristol

Sacha 17-01-2005 06:18 PM

On 15/1/05 16:33, in article ,
"gray" wrote:

Any ideas of the following seeds that were given to me this autumn

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed1.jpg

Ray thinks it could be Pseudocamellia stewartia

and

http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed2.jpg and the leaf was green when
picked.


It's maddeningly familiar but.....!
Where did the seeds come from originally? I'm going to forward your post to
David Poole and see if he can help, too.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Rod 17-01-2005 07:05 PM

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:18:20 +0000, Sacha
wrote:


Ray thinks it could be Pseudocamellia stewartia


What about this?
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/s/stepse/stepse1.html

=================================================

Rod

Weed my email address to reply.
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

Sacha 17-01-2005 11:30 PM

On 17/1/05 19:05, in article ,
"Rod" wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:18:20 +0000, Sacha
wrote:


Ray thinks it could be Pseudocamellia stewartia


What about this?
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/s/stepse/stepse1.html

=================================================


Not that, then. Those seed pods aren't right. The thing is that they're
strangely familiar!
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)


Sacha 18-01-2005 05:46 PM

On 17/1/05 23:30, in article ,
"Sacha" wrote:

On 17/1/05 19:05, in article ,
"Rod" wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:18:20 +0000, Sacha
wrote:


Ray thinks it could be Pseudocamellia stewartia


What about this?
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/s/stepse/stepse1.html

=================================================


Not that, then. Those seed pods aren't right. The thing is that they're
strangely familiar!


Duh. I was looking at the wrong pic. So back two paces - the seed pod Ray
has just brought me looks remarkably like the one the OP showed, though
possibly not as large. So, for now I'll go with one of the Stewartias and
see what comes up when the OP plants it.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


gray 22-01-2005 10:25 AM

I have now taken the seed out of
http://www.balesfield.co.uk/temp/seed2.jpg and have found it to
somewhat similar to a small walnut seed but a with very much rounded 6
lobed star crosssection.
I believe that this could be Davidia involucrata or the "Handkerchief
Tree".

Can anyone confirm ???



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