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David W.E. Roberts 19-01-2005 03:31 PM

Roses and seasons
 
Hi,

I was about to post a query about when to prune my roses - in tubs on the
patio - but Google told me March/April after the last frosts.

The reason I was looking was because I have noticed that the roses have
burst into life and are putting on loads of new growth, and I was wondering
if I had left it too late (as I usually do with my grape vines).

Everything seems to be putting out new shoots at the moment and we are
barely into winter.

So far we seem to have missed most of the nasty cold wet and windy stuff in
coastal Sufolk so I starting to wonder if we are going to have a winter at
all!

Is it usual for roses to grow strongly at this time of year?
First season for these as I bought them last year.

TIA
Dave R

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Kay 19-01-2005 05:16 PM

In article , David W.E. Roberts
writes
Hi,

I was about to post a query about when to prune my roses - in tubs on the
patio - but Google told me March/April after the last frosts.


In much of the UK, those two conditions are mutually incompatible!

The reason I was looking was because I have noticed that the roses have
burst into life and are putting on loads of new growth, and I was wondering
if I had left it too late (as I usually do with my grape vines).


There are two theories:

1) Prune in November because otherwise the bush will be rocked by the
wind and will flatten out an impervious pan under the crown where water
will collect and rot the roots.

2) Prune in March else the rose will put out lots of new growth after
pruning which will all be killed by frosts/

I think most people go for the spring pruning.

Don't worry about the new growth - it's what roses are good at! Although
it can feel quite sad pruning below good healthy growths, the rose will
soon replace them.

Everything seems to be putting out new shoots at the moment and we are
barely into winter.

So far we seem to have missed most of the nasty cold wet and windy stuff in
coastal Sufolk so I starting to wonder if we are going to have a winter at
all!


We're only half way through January! - the worst is still to come.

Is it usual for roses to grow strongly at this time of year?
First season for these as I bought them last year.


I haven't looked at mine but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if
they were doing the same.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Franz Heymann 20-01-2005 10:23 AM


"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , David W.E. Roberts
writes
Hi,

I was about to post a query about when to prune my roses - in tubs

on the
patio - but Google told me March/April after the last frosts.


In much of the UK, those two conditions are mutually incompatible!

The reason I was looking was because I have noticed that the roses

have
burst into life and are putting on loads of new growth, and I was

wondering
if I had left it too late (as I usually do with my grape vines).


There are two theories:

1) Prune in November because otherwise the bush will be rocked by

the
wind and will flatten out an impervious pan under the crown where

water
will collect and rot the roots.

2) Prune in March else the rose will put out lots of new growth

after
pruning which will all be killed by frosts/


I put a third theory into practice:
Prune lightly in early winter to minimise windrocking, and give a
final prune in late March.

[snip]

Franz



Eileen 25-01-2005 02:29 AM

obviously in UK your seasons are opposite to ours in southern hemisphere,
but the theory must be the same. Here some people prune in late winter just
before or as new growth starts. Others do as you say and do a light prune in
autumn to help prevent wind rock and also to get rid of any diseased leaves,
then prune properly in July/August. Both methods seem to get similar results




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