The fence at the top of my back garden, owned by my neighbour, is
broken and falling down, basically it's a wreck. Cats get through and
attack the birds in my garden. It is also in my opinion a security
risk from burglars. My neighbour wont fix it

I would like to plant an extremely nasty, anti cat, and anti burglar,
hedge. I would like something that grows relatively quickly and that I
would be able to prune with powerful electric hedge trimmers. 5 ft.
tall would be my target height. I plan long-term to remove my
leylandii when the hedge is formed.

Any ideas? Pyracanthea, Rosa rugosa, or berberis. A bonus would be to
have butterflies and birds attracted to my hedge.
Phil of Whittlesey Peterborough England

"PhilBoy" wrote in message
ups.com...
The fence at the top of my back garden, owned by my neighbour, is
broken and falling down, basically it's a wreck. Cats get through and
attack the birds in my garden. It is also in my opinion a security
risk from burglars. My neighbour wont fix it

I would like to plant an extremely nasty, anti cat, and anti burglar,
hedge. I would like something that grows relatively quickly and that I
would be able to prune with powerful electric hedge trimmers. 5 ft.
tall would be my target height. I plan long-term to remove my
leylandii when the hedge is formed.

Any ideas? Pyracanthea, Rosa rugosa, or berberis. A bonus would be to
have butterflies and birds attracted to my hedge.
Phil of Whittlesey Peterborough England


Pyracantha is the most immediate suggestion and the birds love the berries
in the winter althought to get best berries you really need to prune
correctly with secateurs
Berberis in front for low level prickles
Rosa Rugosa is a pain to keep in control and nasty to deal with

"PhilBoy" wrote in message
ups.com...
The fence at the top of my back garden, owned by my neighbour, is
broken and falling down, basically it's a wreck. Cats get through and
attack the birds in my garden. It is also in my opinion a security
risk from burglars. My neighbour wont fix it

I would like to plant an extremely nasty, anti cat, and anti burglar,
hedge. I would like something that grows relatively quickly and that I
would be able to prune with powerful electric hedge trimmers. 5 ft.
tall would be my target height. I plan long-term to remove my
leylandii when the hedge is formed.

Any ideas? Pyracanthea, Rosa rugosa, or berberis. A bonus would be to
have butterflies and birds attracted to my hedge.
Phil of Whittlesey Peterborough England



No hedge of whatever species will ever be catproof.
You need your fence on your land, electrified if necessary to sort out the
pussy cats and additional barbed wire to deter humans.
You can then plant the wildlife friendly hedge on your side of it to attract
flutterbies, birds etc.
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

In article . com,
PhilBoy writes
Pyracanthea, Rosa rugosa, or berberis. A bonus would be to
have butterflies and birds attracted to my hedge.
Phil of Whittlesey Peterborough England

Have a look at the thread 'what edge' which is the same question.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"PhilBoy" wrote in message
ups.com...
The fence at the top of my back garden, owned by my neighbour, is
broken and falling down, basically it's a wreck. Cats get through and
attack the birds in my garden. It is also in my opinion a security
risk from burglars. My neighbour wont fix it

I would like to plant an extremely nasty, anti cat, and anti burglar,
hedge. I would like something that grows relatively quickly and that I
would be able to prune with powerful electric hedge trimmers. 5 ft.
tall would be my target height. I plan long-term to remove my
leylandii when the hedge is formed.

NOTHING is cat proof :~))
Except maybe getting a dog ........

Any ideas? Pyracanthea, Rosa rugosa, or berberis.

All of those are good
Blackberries are good too and you get the fruit as a bonus.

A bonus would be to
have butterflies and birds attracted to my hedge.
Phil of Whittlesey Peterborough England

Put a few Buddleias in-between. They are not prickly but the flowers smell
gorgeous and attract masses of butterfly's. They will like being pruned hard
every year so will fit in with your scheme of things.

Jenny

There's a real gap in the market for a book titled "Security Plantings",
describing all the spiny thicket forming plants which are actually
in some other way horticulturally attractive. It would have a section
on screens and possibly a (very thin) section on attempts at cat-proofing.

"John McMillan" wrote

There's a real gap in the market for a book titled "Security Plantings",
describing all the spiny thicket forming plants which are actually
in some other way horticulturally attractive. It would have a section
on screens and possibly a (very thin) section on attempts at cat-proofing.

No, a very thick section of cat proofing, a very thin section on 100%
successful cat proofing.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

"John McMillan" wrote in message
...

There's a real gap in the market for a book titled "Security Plantings",
describing all the spiny thicket forming plants which are actually
in some other way horticulturally attractive. It would have a section
on screens and possibly a (very thin) section on attempts at cat-proofing.

Found these:
Catproof : http://www.webmesh.co.uk/hedgetodeter.htm
Totally mad matress recyling !: http://www.users.on.net/~arachne/mattress.html

Jenny :~))

In article , John
McMillan writes

There's a real gap in the market for a book titled "Security Plantings",
describing all the spiny thicket forming plants which are actually
in some other way horticulturally attractive. It would have a section
on screens and possibly a (very thin) section on attempts at cat-proofing.

Talk to your local policy security advisor - at least one police force
gives out a leaflet describing different plants for security hedging.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:24:03 +0000, Peter Stockdale wrote
(in message ):


No hedge of whatever species will ever be catproof.
You need your fence on your land, electrified if necessary to sort out the
pussy cats and additional barbed wire to deter humans.
You can then plant the wildlife friendly hedge on your side of it to attract
flutterbies, birds etc.
Pete

I've seen one strange thing recommended for deterring cats- I have no idea
how well it works, but it is dried "lion dung" or pellets treated with same.
Supposedly they smell a big cat and stay away!

--
VX (remove alcohol for email)

In article , Kay
wrote:

In article , John
McMillan writes

There's a real gap in the market for a book titled "Security Plantings",
describing all the spiny thicket forming plants which are actually
in some other way horticulturally attractive. It would have a section
on screens and possibly a (very thin) section on attempts at cat-proofing.

Talk to your local policy security advisor - at least one police force
gives out a leaflet describing different plants for security hedging.

I've seen those leaflets. They're a start but what I want is an A4,
~160page coffee table size book with glossy pictures of Rubus Cockburnianus
looking threatening.

j

In article ,
John McMillan wrote:

There's a real gap in the market for a book titled "Security Plantings",
describing all the spiny thicket forming plants which are actually
in some other way horticulturally attractive. It would have a section
on screens and possibly a (very thin) section on attempts at cat-proofing.

Talk to your local policy security advisor - at least one police force
gives out a leaflet describing different plants for security hedging.

I've seen those leaflets. They're a start but what I want is an A4,
~160page coffee table size book with glossy pictures of Rubus Cockburnianus
looking threatening.

I doubt that burglars, small boys or cats will be discouraged by a
book, even if you hang it in the path they use. You could use it
to throw at cats, I suppose.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
No, a very thick section of cat proofing, a very thin section on 100%
successful cat proofing.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London


Yup - leccy fences are very thin !!

Pete

Peter Stockdale wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
No, a very thick section of cat proofing, a very thin section on
100%
successful cat proofing.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London


Yup - leccy fences are very thin !!

It's important when setting up an electric fence to remember where
it is if you believe in the gardener's privilege of nocturnal
watering the natural way.

Mike.

"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
Peter Stockdale wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
No, a very thick section of cat proofing, a very thin section on
100%
successful cat proofing.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London


Yup - leccy fences are very thin !!

It's important when setting up an electric fence to remember where
it is if you believe in the gardener's privilege of nocturnal
watering the natural way.

Mike.




4000volts Ouch !!
Pete