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Franz Heymann 02-02-2005 10:08 PM


"bigboard" wrote in message
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Franz Heymann wrote:


"bigboard" wrote in message
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Mike Lyle wrote:


[snip]
I have a small wormery that produces excellent compost and liquid

plant
food, and takes all of my organic kitchen waste. It sits next to

the
bin in
my kitchen and was worth every penny. What have you got against

them?

The fact that it takes six weeks to dispose of 1 week's kitchen

waste.


Then your wormery is too small for your needs. Mine suits me

perfectly.

Mine has a diameter of approximately 1 ft. How large must I make it
to cope six times as fast as it does now?

All science is either physics or stamp collecting.


My profession was physicist and my hobby is stamp collecting, so
according to Rutherford, I was a full time scientist.

Franz



Franz Heymann 02-02-2005 10:08 PM


wrote in message
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:55:13 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"bigboard" wrote in message
...
Mike Lyle wrote:


[snip]
I have a small wormery that produces excellent compost and liquid

plant
food, and takes all of my organic kitchen waste. It sits next to

the
bin in
my kitchen and was worth every penny. What have you got against

them?

The fact that it takes six weeks to dispose of 1 week's kitchen

waste.

You pamper your worms Franz.


Since we last spoke on the topic, I threw those Tubergen bulb trays in
the waste bin and rehoused my worms in a wormery made by drilling
plenty of holes in the bottom of some old chicken pellet buckets.
They stack nicely. The worms still don't eat. They just lie there
laughing at me.

Franz



Franz Heymann 02-02-2005 10:08 PM


wrote in message
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:55:12 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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Franz Heymann wrote:
"VX" wrote in message
s.com...
I've got some sales literature that came in a Screwfix order

about
a
device for making compost called the ComposTumbler that-
supposedly-
makes good compost in 14 days because it has the facility for
turning rather like a cement mixer; you turn it every day and

this
allows the process to speed up somewhat. All was well until I
called
the freephone number and heard the prices- £299 and £399 for

the
medium and large ones respectively and for the small

garden-porch
model, £199.

It is a rip-off. There is not even the faintest possibility

that
any
home composter will produce compost in 14 days.
It is being sold at around 10 to 20 times a reasonable price.

If these reelly are that good I *might* be interested since
whatever
it takes to make compost normally is probably too much effort

for
me
with my physical limitations. But this does sound a little
expensive! Anyone know anything about these?

It's just ridiculous. If it's small enough to turn by hand, it's

too
small to make compost. Put it in the same compartment as

shredders,
flame-throwers, and wormeries: just another way of separating the
innocent from their hard-earned. Gardening is a simple business,

and
those who do it on next to nothing can get better results than

those
who spend thousands. These sharks are just trying to cultivate

the
idea that everything has to cost money before it'll work.


Hear hear.


... said the man with the failed worm farm :-)


I do not have any failed worms on my farm. They are thrivind and
rotund. They just don't eat fast enough
Seriously, should I perhaps put a trowelful of garden soil in their
hostel now and again?

Franz



Franz Heymann 02-02-2005 10:09 PM


"bigboard" wrote in message
...
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:55:12 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
Franz Heymann wrote:
"VX" wrote in message
s.com...
I've got some sales literature that came in a Screwfix order
about
a
device for making compost called the ComposTumbler that-
supposedly-
makes good compost in 14 days because it has the facility for
turning rather like a cement mixer; you turn it every day and
this
allows the process to speed up somewhat. All was well until I
called
the freephone number and heard the prices- £299 and £399 for

the
medium and large ones respectively and for the small

garden-porch
model, £199.

It is a rip-off. There is not even the faintest possibility

that
any
home composter will produce compost in 14 days.
It is being sold at around 10 to 20 times a reasonable price.

If these reelly are that good I *might* be interested since
whatever
it takes to make compost normally is probably too much effort

for
me
with my physical limitations. But this does sound a little
expensive! Anyone know anything about these?

It's just ridiculous. If it's small enough to turn by hand, it's

too
small to make compost. Put it in the same compartment as

shredders,
flame-throwers, and wormeries: just another way of separating

the
innocent from their hard-earned. Gardening is a simple business,

and
those who do it on next to nothing can get better results than

those
who spend thousands. These sharks are just trying to cultivate

the
idea that everything has to cost money before it'll work.

Hear hear.


... said the man with the failed worm farm :-)


LOL! Franz was probably putting all the cats in he shoots. Wormeries

were
never designed for cat disposal.


I am sticking rigorously to the EU directives and exclude cats and
other sorts of meat from the wormery.
{:-))

Franz



Steve Harris 02-02-2005 11:15 PM

In article ,
(Franz Heymann) wrote:

Mine has a diameter of approximately 1 ft. How large must I make it
to cope six times as fast as it does now?


Wild guess, 2.449489742783 feet :-) Approximately :-)

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com
A useful bit of gardening software at
http://www.netservs.com/garden/

Nick Maclaren 02-02-2005 11:15 PM

In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:


Then your wormery is too small for your needs. Mine suits me

perfectly.

Mine has a diameter of approximately 1 ft. How large must I make it
to cope six times as fast as it does now?


Have you read Charles Dodgson (a.k.a. Lewis Carroll) on the question
of how many cats it takes to kill rats in a given time?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren 02-02-2005 11:20 PM

In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:
"bigboard" wrote in message
...

LOL! Franz was probably putting all the cats in he shoots. Wormeries

were
never designed for cat disposal.


I am sticking rigorously to the EU directives and exclude cats and
other sorts of meat from the wormery.
{:-))


Does anyone here run a maggotery?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Mike Lyle 03-02-2005 12:34 AM

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:
"bigboard" wrote in message
...

LOL! Franz was probably putting all the cats in he shoots.
Wormeries were never designed for cat disposal.


I am sticking rigorously to the EU directives and exclude cats and
other sorts of meat from the wormery.
{:-))


Does anyone here run a maggotery?


I saw one on TV once. "Maggotry", on the other hand, sounds like an
obscure criminal offence, possibly less common in these days of
widespread street-lighting.

Mike.



Franz Heymann 03-02-2005 09:21 AM


"Steve Harris" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Franz Heymann) wrote:

Mine has a diameter of approximately 1 ft. How large must I make

it
to cope six times as fast as it does now?


Wild guess, 2.449489742783 feet :-) Approximately :-)


Yours and mine round off differently.
{:-))

Franz



Franz Heymann 03-02-2005 09:21 AM


"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:


Then your wormery is too small for your needs. Mine suits me

perfectly.

Mine has a diameter of approximately 1 ft. How large must I make

it
to cope six times as fast as it does now?


Have you read Charles Dodgson (a.k.a. Lewis Carroll) on the question
of how many cats it takes to kill rats in a given time?


No, but I look forward to hearing where he wrote that.

If all the animals are reasonably spaced, I guess the number killed
per unit time is proportional to the product of the number of cats and
rats.
{:-))

Franz

Franz



jane 03-02-2005 09:28 AM

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:08:58 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

~
~"bigboard" wrote in message
...
~ Franz Heymann wrote:
~
~
~ "bigboard" wrote in message
~ ...
~ Mike Lyle wrote:
~
~ [snip]
~ I have a small wormery that produces excellent compost and liquid
~ plant
~ food, and takes all of my organic kitchen waste. It sits next to
~the
~ bin in
~ my kitchen and was worth every penny. What have you got against
~ them?
~
~ The fact that it takes six weeks to dispose of 1 week's kitchen
~waste.
~
~
~ Then your wormery is too small for your needs. Mine suits me
~perfectly.
~
~Mine has a diameter of approximately 1 ft. How large must I make it
~to cope six times as fast as it does now?

I presume current volume is therefore 0.25.pi.depth so you'd need to
be at approximately 2.449 feet diameter. As if you didn't know! :)
jane checks following emails - yep, we all agree!

~ All science is either physics or stamp collecting.
~
~My profession was physicist and my hobby is stamp collecting, so
~according to Rutherford, I was a full time scientist.
~
:-)

I love that quote. Would have liked to put it at the start of my
thesis but at the time my external examiner wasn't sorted and could
have been a medical physicist or a clued-up medic and I didn't want
the latter to get rebuffed and be more likely to fail me!

(As it was, I got two physicists and no problems, phew, so I could
have put it in!)

Now I collect china ducks but it was once British mint stamps until I
got disillusioned with the mail obviously printing them for collectors
to buy and making way too much money. (ie when I was a student!).

I still buy the ones with plant or astronomy connections though, thus
linking hobbies!

So, this begs the question, what do urglers have as other hobbies for
when they can't garden?

jane, medical physicist, duck collector, reader of murder-mysteries
and science fiction, and avid photographer. :-)


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

jane 03-02-2005 09:31 AM

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:09:00 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

~
~"bigboard" wrote in message
...
~ wrote:
~
~ On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:55:12 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
~ wrote:
~
huge snip
~
~ Hear hear.
~
~ ... said the man with the failed worm farm :-)
~
~ LOL! Franz was probably putting all the cats in he shoots. Wormeries
~were
~ never designed for cat disposal.
~
~I am sticking rigorously to the EU directives and exclude cats and
~other sorts of meat from the wormery.
~{:-))
~
Actually, this is a good point. Cats compost their products naturally
- does this mean the EU has banned cats?

:-) :-) :-)

g,d&rlh


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

bigboard 03-02-2005 09:56 AM

Franz Heymann wrote:


"bigboard" wrote in message
...
Franz Heymann wrote:


"bigboard" wrote in message
...
Mike Lyle wrote:

[snip]
I have a small wormery that produces excellent compost and liquid
plant
food, and takes all of my organic kitchen waste. It sits next to

the
bin in
my kitchen and was worth every penny. What have you got against
them?

The fact that it takes six weeks to dispose of 1 week's kitchen

waste.


Then your wormery is too small for your needs. Mine suits me

perfectly.

Mine has a diameter of approximately 1 ft. How large must I make it
to cope six times as fast as it does now?


Six times as large? Seriously, I suspect that you are being a bit impatient
with your worms. It can take quite a while for them to reach sufficient
numbers to be efficient. Once they get there though, there's no stopping
them.

All science is either physics or stamp collecting.


My profession was physicist and my hobby is stamp collecting, so
according to Rutherford, I was a full time scientist.


LOL. Nice one.

--
Love your enemies: they'll go crazy trying to figure out what you're up
to.


Nick Maclaren 03-02-2005 09:56 AM

In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:

Have you read Charles Dodgson (a.k.a. Lewis Carroll) on the question
of how many cats it takes to kill rats in a given time?


No, but I look forward to hearing where he wrote that.


"The Monthly Packet", February 1880. It is on pages 140-142 of
The Magic of Lewis Carrol by John Fisher (Penguin), but my copy
was published in 1975.

If all the animals are reasonably spaced, I guess the number killed
per unit time is proportional to the product of the number of cats and
rats.
{:-))


You've got to the first step.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

bigboard 03-02-2005 09:58 AM

Franz Heymann wrote:


"bigboard" wrote in message
...
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:55:12 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
...
Franz Heymann wrote:
"VX" wrote in message
s.com...
I've got some sales literature that came in a Screwfix order
about
a
device for making compost called the ComposTumbler that-
supposedly-
makes good compost in 14 days because it has the facility for
turning rather like a cement mixer; you turn it every day and
this
allows the process to speed up somewhat. All was well until I
called
the freephone number and heard the prices- £299 and £399 for

the
medium and large ones respectively and for the small

garden-porch
model, £199.

It is a rip-off. There is not even the faintest possibility

that
any
home composter will produce compost in 14 days.
It is being sold at around 10 to 20 times a reasonable price.

If these reelly are that good I *might* be interested since
whatever
it takes to make compost normally is probably too much effort

for
me
with my physical limitations. But this does sound a little
expensive! Anyone know anything about these?

It's just ridiculous. If it's small enough to turn by hand, it's

too
small to make compost. Put it in the same compartment as

shredders,
flame-throwers, and wormeries: just another way of separating

the
innocent from their hard-earned. Gardening is a simple business,

and
those who do it on next to nothing can get better results than

those
who spend thousands. These sharks are just trying to cultivate

the
idea that everything has to cost money before it'll work.

Hear hear.

... said the man with the failed worm farm :-)


LOL! Franz was probably putting all the cats in he shoots. Wormeries

were
never designed for cat disposal.


I am sticking rigorously to the EU directives and exclude cats and
other sorts of meat from the wormery.
{:-))

Franz


Good point! I'd forgotten about the animal waste directive. Bury them under
newly planted trees then.

--
"I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to
die in."
-- George McGovern



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