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Chris S 09-03-2005 10:07 PM

Rose Cuttings
 
Advice, please, urglers. I have tended 12 hardwood cuttings of old,
beautifully scented climbing roses. They appear to be alive, and are coming
into leaf. At the moment they look like 8 inch stalks with 2 or 3 breaking
buds, and they are in 8 inch pots - two cuttings per pot. What should I do
next - do I need to prune then again to encourage more stems - what shape
should I be looking to achieve by the end of this season? There are two
varieties of rose - at the moment I've had to call them "a" and "b" until
the parents can be identified :-))
Looking for advice, please.

Chris S



Miss Perspicacia Tick 10-03-2005 03:42 AM

Chris S wrote:
Advice, please, urglers. I have tended 12 hardwood cuttings of old,
beautifully scented climbing roses. They appear to be alive, and are
coming into leaf. At the moment they look like 8 inch stalks with 2
or 3 breaking buds, and they are in 8 inch pots - two cuttings per
pot. What should I do next - do I need to prune then again to
encourage more stems - what shape should I be looking to achieve by
the end of this season? There are two varieties of rose - at the
moment I've had to call them "a" and "b" until the parents can be
identified :-)) Looking for advice, please.

Chris S



Can't help you with the horticultural aspect (much to my grandfather's
disappointment and disgust, whilst I like roses, I don't get the same thrill
from them as he does) but, if you have a picture of the plant in bloom,
Peter Harkness's online catalogue (www.roses.co.uk) may be able to assist
you in identification. A direct link to his climbers (including my own
dearly departed grandmother) may be found here
(http://www.roses.co.uk/acatalog/Climbers.html).
--
Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling
on salads.



Miss Perspicacia Tick 10-03-2005 03:50 AM

Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
Chris S wrote:
Advice, please, urglers. I have tended 12 hardwood cuttings of old,
beautifully scented climbing roses. They appear to be alive, and are
coming into leaf. At the moment they look like 8 inch stalks with 2
or 3 breaking buds, and they are in 8 inch pots - two cuttings per
pot. What should I do next - do I need to prune then again to
encourage more stems - what shape should I be looking to achieve by
the end of this season? There are two varieties of rose - at the
moment I've had to call them "a" and "b" until the parents can be
identified :-)) Looking for advice, please.

Chris S



Can't help you with the horticultural aspect (much to my grandfather's
disappointment and disgust, whilst I like roses, I don't get the same
thrill from them as he does) but, if you have a picture of the plant
in bloom, Peter Harkness's online catalogue (www.roses.co.uk) may be
able to assist you in identification. A direct link to his climbers
(including my own dearly departed grandmother) may be found here
(http://www.roses.co.uk/acatalog/Climbers.html).



Correction - that should be /Roger/ Harkness - I've called him Peter for
years, I've no idea why!
--
Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling
on salads.



Fred Gibson 10-03-2005 04:45 PM


"Chris S" wrote in message
...
Advice, please, urglers. I have tended 12 hardwood cuttings of old,
beautifully scented climbing roses. They appear to be alive, and are
coming into leaf. At the moment they look like 8 inch stalks with 2 or 3
breaking buds, and they are in 8 inch pots - two cuttings per pot. What
should I do next - do I need to prune then again to encourage more stems -
what shape should I be looking to achieve by the end of this season? There
are two varieties of rose - at the moment I've had to call them "a" and
"b" until the parents can be identified :-))
Looking for advice, please.

Chris S Some advice I was given a few years ago was to leave them in their
original pot or position for the following 12 months to let the roots get
a good hold then plant them where you want them.




Franz Heymann 11-03-2005 11:08 AM


"Chris S" wrote in message
...
Advice, please, urglers. I have tended 12 hardwood cuttings of old,
beautifully scented climbing roses. They appear to be alive, and are

coming
into leaf. At the moment they look like 8 inch stalks with 2 or 3

breaking
buds, and they are in 8 inch pots - two cuttings per pot. What

should I do
next - do I need to prune then again to encourage more stems - what

shape
should I be looking to achieve by the end of this season? There are

two
varieties of rose - at the moment I've had to call them "a" and "b"

until
the parents can be identified :-))
Looking for advice, please.


would be inclined to let them enjoy their first growing season
without any pruning at all

Franz



Sacha 13-03-2005 10:53 AM

On 9/3/05 22:07, in article ,
"Chris S" wrote:

Advice, please, urglers. I have tended 12 hardwood cuttings of old,
beautifully scented climbing roses. They appear to be alive, and are coming
into leaf. At the moment they look like 8 inch stalks with 2 or 3 breaking
buds, and they are in 8 inch pots - two cuttings per pot. What should I do
next - do I need to prune then again to encourage more stems - what shape
should I be looking to achieve by the end of this season? There are two
varieties of rose - at the moment I've had to call them "a" and "b" until
the parents can be identified :-))
Looking for advice, please.

Chris S


Pot them on into individual pots but don't prune them - they're still
babies! What you want eventually are strong growing stems, no weak wood and
no crossing stems but I wouldn't think you need to worry about that just yet
- no need to worry about training until they're well established.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Chris S 13-03-2005 02:11 PM


"Sacha" wrote in message
k...
On 9/3/05 22:07, in article ,
"Chris S" wrote:

Advice, please, urglers. I have tended 12 hardwood cuttings of old,
beautifully scented climbing roses. They appear to be alive, and are
coming
into leaf. At the moment they look like 8 inch stalks with 2 or 3
breaking
buds, and they are in 8 inch pots - two cuttings per pot. What should I
do
next - do I need to prune then again to encourage more stems - what shape
should I be looking to achieve by the end of this season? There are two
varieties of rose - at the moment I've had to call them "a" and "b" until
the parents can be identified :-))
Looking for advice, please.

Chris S


Pot them on into individual pots but don't prune them - they're still
babies! What you want eventually are strong growing stems, no weak wood
and
no crossing stems but I wouldn't think you need to worry about that just
yet
- no need to worry about training until they're well established.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Thanks all for the advice - I'll keep going with tlc and words of
encouragement untill next spring, then "hack" them into shape:-)

Chris S



Rodger Whitlock 15-03-2005 03:36 PM

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 22:07:52 -0000, "Chris S"
wrote:

Advice, please, urglers. I have tended 12 hardwood cuttings of old,
beautifully scented climbing roses. They appear to be alive, and are coming
into leaf. At the moment they look like 8 inch stalks with 2 or 3 breaking
buds, and they are in 8 inch pots - two cuttings per pot. What should I do
next - do I need to prune then again to encourage more stems - what shape
should I be looking to achieve by the end of this season? There are two
varieties of rose - at the moment I've had to call them "a" and "b" until
the parents can be identified :-))
Looking for advice, please.


Leave them alone! They are invalids who have yet to develop proper
root systems, and if you fuss with them, they may kick the bucket from
the strain. Leave well enough alone!

IOW, be cautious with water, no fertilizer, watch that they don't fry
in bright sun, and so on. Even though Sacha suggests potting on, I
wouldn't until they are growing strongly.

BTW, two cuttings to an 8-inch pot sounds over-potted to me.


What I do: there's a group of houses near me undergoing demolition.
One of them has a rambler rose of some sort in front, almost a purple,
a rose I have often admired when walking by.

Since it will be destroyed in the redevelopment, last summer I took
cuttings just after the flowers faded. Simply stuck them into the soil
in a semi-shaded bed with a glass jar over them. Four or five have
rooted and are showing signs of good growth this spring -- but I will
leave them in situ until they begin to grow vigorously.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, BC, Canada
to send email, change atlantic to pacific
and invalid to net

Kay 15-03-2005 05:24 PM

In article , Rodger Whitlock
writes
IOW, be cautious with water, no fertilizer, watch that they don't fry
in bright sun, and so on. Even though Sacha suggests potting on, I
wouldn't until they are growing strongly.


I wait until there are roots coming from the bottom of the pot.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"



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