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ESB 18-03-2005 07:48 PM

Illegal garden substances
 
I was clearing up my mother's garden shed and noticed a lot of bottles
and packets of what are now considered to be illegal products (for
example, the original Jeyes Fluid, Cutlass, and an old B&Q weed and
feed)

Does this make her a criminal and if so, can we expect a raid from the
'Plant Police' ?

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Mike Lyle 18-03-2005 07:57 PM

ESB wrote:
I was clearing up my mother's garden shed and noticed a lot of

bottles
and packets of what are now considered to be illegal products (for
example, the original Jeyes Fluid, Cutlass, and an old B&Q weed and
feed)

Does this make her a criminal and if so, can we expect a raid from

the
'Plant Police' ?


Depends if you want to be paranoid or not. Are you considering making
some sort of political point?

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Nick Maclaren 18-03-2005 08:02 PM

In article , ESB wrote:
I was clearing up my mother's garden shed and noticed a lot of bottles
and packets of what are now considered to be illegal products (for
example, the original Jeyes Fluid, Cutlass, and an old B&Q weed and
feed)


Think yourself lucky. When clearing up my father-in-law's outhouses
(yes, plural), I eventually uncovered two largely full rusting 5
gallon drums of tar oil winter wash and creosote.

Does this make her a criminal and if so, can we expect a raid from the
'Plant Police' ?


Not as far as I know. But it would if they were some other substances.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

ESB 18-03-2005 08:49 PM

Just wondered about the legal position. No politics, no gripes, just
curiosity!

Seven bucks is a lot of doe (geddit!!??), but as my ISP doesnt have a
newsfeed I need to go somewhere. Suggestions most welcome because its
a few pints a month!

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:57:19 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

ESB wrote:
I was clearing up my mother's garden shed and noticed a lot of

bottles
and packets of what are now considered to be illegal products (for
example, the original Jeyes Fluid, Cutlass, and an old B&Q weed and
feed)

Does this make her a criminal and if so, can we expect a raid from

the
'Plant Police' ?


Depends if you want to be paranoid or not. Are you considering making
some sort of political point?

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Martin Brown 18-03-2005 08:55 PM

ESB wrote:

I was clearing up my mother's garden shed and noticed a lot of bottles
and packets of what are now considered to be illegal products (for
example, the original Jeyes Fluid, Cutlass, and an old B&Q weed and
feed)


Depending on the chemicals you might like to look up the MSDS for the
ingredients. Some things could be used (out of licence) but wear eye
protection (several formulations were made illegal because morons used
them as eye wash or drank them to commit suicide). Unless it is
something really nasty and/or carcinogenic the least environmentally
damaging solution is to use it up according to the instructions.

Legally you should take it for safe disposal. Most local authorities
provide something for toxic materials at their waste disposal sites.

Stored carelessly they may well be deactivated by hydrolysis anyway.

Does this make her a criminal and if so, can we expect a raid from the
'Plant Police' ?


The scariest things I ever encountered doing this sort of thing we

An evil looking corroded container in my late uncles garage that turned
out to contain mega concentrated washing up liquid (sans dye).

An innocent looking but aging and brittle 5L plastic pink parafin
container in a greenhouse that on careful inspection turned out to be
full of 35% HF ("glass cleaner"). I put it down again very very
carefully. Had it ruptured I would be dead. Specialist disposal
required. The HF *safety* film is notorious for causing lost time
accidents. *

* AFAIK HF is not offered for sale to the public in the UK.
(but it was to grape growers in Belgium)

Regards,
Martin Brown

JB 18-03-2005 10:44 PM

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:55:04 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote:

An innocent looking but aging and brittle 5L plastic pink parafin
container in a greenhouse that on careful inspection turned out to be
full of 35% HF ("glass cleaner"). I put it down again very very
carefully. Had it ruptured I would be dead. Specialist disposal
required. The HF *safety* film is notorious for causing lost time
accidents. *


.... the worst I ever encountered while clearing out a shed was jars
full of cyanide but I think that HF beats that. I remember seeing
(probably the same?) HF safety film - probably one of the grossest
things I have ever seen!

JB

shazzbat 20-03-2005 08:50 PM


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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The message
from JB contains these words:

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:55:04 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote:


An innocent looking but aging and brittle 5L plastic pink parafin
container in a greenhouse that on careful inspection turned out to be
full of 35% HF ("glass cleaner"). I put it down again very very
carefully. Had it ruptured I would be dead. Specialist disposal
required. The HF *safety* film is notorious for causing lost time
accidents. *


.... the worst I ever encountered while clearing out a shed was jars
full of cyanide but I think that HF beats that. I remember seeing
(probably the same?) HF safety film - probably one of the grossest
things I have ever seen!


My grandfather worked in an armaments factory and lived in a
secluded spot on the banks of a famous salmon river. After he died, his
shed was cleared out by the bomb squad :~}

Janet


In the army in the late 60s/70s, I used to regularly have to sit through a
film called "not worth dying for", about the dangers of mishandling
ammunition and explosives. Now that was gross, and very graphic. One scene
was about an artillery man who brought the fuse of a shell home and
proceeeded to take it apart in his shed with a pair of pliers. Trashed the
shed, himself and his little brother, very gruesomely.

Steve





Duncan Heenan 21-03-2005 11:06 AM


"shazzbat" wrote in message
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from JB contains these words:

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:55:04 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote:


An innocent looking but aging and brittle 5L plastic pink parafin
container in a greenhouse that on careful inspection turned out to be
full of 35% HF ("glass cleaner"). I put it down again very very
carefully. Had it ruptured I would be dead. Specialist disposal
required. The HF *safety* film is notorious for causing lost time
accidents. *


.... the worst I ever encountered while clearing out a shed was jars
full of cyanide but I think that HF beats that. I remember seeing
(probably the same?) HF safety film - probably one of the grossest
things I have ever seen!


My grandfather worked in an armaments factory and lived in a
secluded spot on the banks of a famous salmon river. After he died, his
shed was cleared out by the bomb squad :~}

Janet


In the army in the late 60s/70s, I used to regularly have to sit through a
film called "not worth dying for", about the dangers of mishandling
ammunition and explosives. Now that was gross, and very graphic. One scene
was about an artillery man who brought the fuse of a shell home and
proceeeded to take it apart in his shed with a pair of pliers. Trashed the
shed, himself and his little brother, very gruesomely.

Steve


My own recollection of a warning film is slightly less gruesome:
I remember once when I used to do the audit of the Educational Foundation
for Visual Aids, we had a query on the stocktake as a film entitled 'Quarter
of a Million Teenagers' seemed to have zero stock. The film was a cautionary
tale about VD (as STD's were then called). The film librarian airily solved
the mystery, "Oh" she said "It's still there, but it's been re-named. Now
it's Half a million Teenagers".



Richard Brooks 23-03-2005 03:42 PM

shazzbat wrote:
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from JB contains these words:

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:55:04 +0000, Martin Brown
wrote:


An innocent looking but aging and brittle 5L plastic pink parafin
container in a greenhouse that on careful inspection turned out to
be full of 35% HF ("glass cleaner"). I put it down again very very
carefully. Had it ruptured I would be dead. Specialist disposal
required. The HF *safety* film is notorious for causing lost time
accidents. *


.... the worst I ever encountered while clearing out a shed was jars
full of cyanide but I think that HF beats that. I remember seeing
(probably the same?) HF safety film - probably one of the grossest
things I have ever seen!


My grandfather worked in an armaments factory and lived in a
secluded spot on the banks of a famous salmon river. After he died,
his shed was cleared out by the bomb squad :~}

Janet


In the army in the late 60s/70s, I used to regularly have to sit
through a film called "not worth dying for", about the dangers of
mishandling ammunition and explosives. Now that was gross, and very
graphic. One scene was about an artillery man who brought the fuse of
a shell home and proceeeded to take it apart in his shed with a pair
of pliers. Trashed the shed, himself and his little brother, very
gruesomely.

Steve


Reminds of that item in Countryfile of the armaments storage complex set up
in an old quarry mine in WWII where some armourer was removing a fuse with
(IIRC) a hammer and screwdriver, the result being a hole something like two
miles across and one mile deep. I've captured the story on to CDR, it was
so incredible and nearly as incredible as the USS Forrestal fire.

Richard.


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