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paulwilks 19-04-2005 02:42 PM

Vigorious scented-colourful climbers
 
Can anyone suggest any vigorious scented-colourful climbers

Nick Maclaren 19-04-2005 03:14 PM


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paulwilks writes:
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| Can anyone suggest any vigorious scented-colourful climbers

Many. Which part of the tropics do you live in?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Mike Lyle 19-04-2005 07:55 PM

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Can anyone suggest any vigorious scented-colourful climbers


I've seen one growing right across a little wooden bridge. It

was
planted by a troll and fertilised with his own manure, to lure
unsuspecting gardeners to their fate.


I'll risk it. Unusual place for a wistaria, but it would work very
well.

--
Mike.



Charlie Pridham 20-04-2005 07:55 AM


"paulwilks" wrote in message
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Can anyone suggest any vigorious scented-colourful climbers


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paulwilks


Lonicera x italica, Lonicera periclymenum, Most rambling roses, Clematis
montana, Clematis Betty Corning, Hydrangea petiolaris, Passiflora caerulea,
Trachelospermum asiaticum. Just a few suggestions.
Choice is not huge if they are also hardy (there are more than above!) but
you didn't say where you were.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Nick Maclaren 20-04-2005 08:56 AM

In article ,
Charlie Pridham wrote:

"paulwilks" wrote in message
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Can anyone suggest any vigorious scented-colourful climbers


Lonicera x italica, Lonicera periclymenum, Most rambling roses, Clematis
montana, Clematis Betty Corning, Hydrangea petiolaris, Passiflora caerulea,
Trachelospermum asiaticum. Just a few suggestions.


Er, some of those are colourful only if you include white and cream,
others are dubiously scented and the roses are dubiously climbers :-)

Choice is not huge if they are also hardy (there are more than above!) but
you didn't say where you were.


I can't think of a single vigorous climber that is definitely colourful,
definitely scented and hardy in Cambridge. You can get two out of
three, but not all three.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Charlie Pridham 20-04-2005 11:50 AM


"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
Charlie Pridham wrote:

"paulwilks" wrote in message
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Can anyone suggest any vigorious scented-colourful climbers


Lonicera x italica, Lonicera periclymenum, Most rambling roses, Clematis
montana, Clematis Betty Corning, Hydrangea petiolaris, Passiflora

caerulea,
Trachelospermum asiaticum. Just a few suggestions.


Er, some of those are colourful only if you include white and cream,
others are dubiously scented and the roses are dubiously climbers :-)

Choice is not huge if they are also hardy (there are more than above!)

but
you didn't say where you were.


I can't think of a single vigorous climber that is definitely colourful,
definitely scented and hardy in Cambridge. You can get two out of
three, but not all three.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Well he didn't specify colour and I like white! all those I mentioned are
strongly enough scented that they can be smelt from at least 10 feet away
from the plant when in flower and the rambling roses I had in mind would
scale a full grown tree in 2 seasons are most definitely climbers that will
attach without help from the gardener. But if the OP was expecting bright
red self clinging and scented then I would have to agree the choice is not
small but non existent!

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Martin Sykes 20-04-2005 07:48 PM

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Charlie Pridham wrote:

"paulwilks" wrote in message
...

Can anyone suggest any vigorious scented-colourful climbers


Lonicera x italica, Lonicera periclymenum, Most rambling roses, Clematis
montana, Clematis Betty Corning, Hydrangea petiolaris, Passiflora
caerulea,
Trachelospermum asiaticum. Just a few suggestions.


Er, some of those are colourful only if you include white and cream,
others are dubiously scented and the roses are dubiously climbers :-)

Choice is not huge if they are also hardy (there are more than above!) but
you didn't say where you were.


I can't think of a single vigorous climber that is definitely colourful,
definitely scented and hardy in Cambridge. You can get two out of
three, but not all three.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


As Mike mentioned, Wisteria should fit the bill. Mine's 4 years old and
looks like it's about to flower for the first time!

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm



Nick Maclaren 20-04-2005 08:06 PM

In article ,
Martin Sykes wrote:

As Mike mentioned, Wisteria should fit the bill. Mine's 4 years old and
looks like it's about to flower for the first time!


You would call it "definitely scented"? Boggle. Yes, the flowers
smell not unpleasantly, but neither strongly nor pleasantly enough
to regard it as a major advantage.

It is also only borderline hardy here, as a flowering plant, as it
loses all its buds if there is a significant late frost.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Kay 21-04-2005 12:06 PM

In article , Charlie
Pridham writes

Well he didn't specify colour and I like white! all those I mentioned are
strongly enough scented that they can be smelt from at least 10 feet away
from the plant when in flower and the rambling roses I had in mind would
scale a full grown tree in 2 seasons are most definitely climbers that will
attach without help from the gardener. But if the OP was expecting bright
red self clinging and scented then I would have to agree the choice is not
small but non existent!

It comes down to function, doesn't it? The purpose of the flowers is to
attract pollinators. Scent is to attract particularly moths, so you go
for colours that show up well in the half light, hence all those even
scented white or pale mauve flowers. Scent in the day time I think is
for bees and butterflies, but again they seem to see light colours best,
or things in the pink/blue spectrum

Birds go for bright reds, but they don't need the scent. So really
bright red flowers are not often scented.

Of course there are exceptions.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Nick Maclaren 21-04-2005 12:23 PM


In article ,
Kay writes:
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| It comes down to function, doesn't it? The purpose of the flowers is to
| attract pollinators. Scent is to attract particularly moths, so you go
| for colours that show up well in the half light, hence all those even
| scented white or pale mauve flowers. Scent in the day time I think is
| for bees and butterflies, but again they seem to see light colours best,
| or things in the pink/blue spectrum
|
| Birds go for bright reds, but they don't need the scent. So really
| bright red flowers are not often scented.
|
| Of course there are exceptions.

That is in the temperate zones, where the pollinators need to
compete for the flowers as much as the flowers for the pollinators.
In the tropics, the onus is much more on the flowers, so you get
more dual-mode ones. But your general rules still apply, just a
bit less so.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren 21-04-2005 12:25 PM


In article ,
"Charlie Pridham" writes:
|
| Well he didn't specify colour and I like white! all those I mentioned are
| strongly enough scented that they can be smelt from at least 10 feet away
| from the plant when in flower and the rambling roses I had in mind would
| scale a full grown tree in 2 seasons are most definitely climbers that will
| attach without help from the gardener. But if the OP was expecting bright
| red self clinging and scented then I would have to agree the choice is not
| small but non existent!

Well, maybe I am getting old, but I can't smell Passiflora caerulea
10 feet away!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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