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Keith 19-04-2005 10:57 PM

Plants called Peter
 
Hopefully some of you may be able to help

I have three Sons Peter, David and Alden
In an effort to get them involved in the Garden, I am trying to buy
plants that they can 'adopt'

I have planted a row of Alders around our pond which is as close to
Alden as I am likely to get!

I have planted Acer Davidii and Davidia Involucrate for David

But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

rgds
Keith

shazzbat 19-04-2005 11:04 PM


"Keith" wrote in message
...
Hopefully some of you may be able to help

I have three Sons Peter, David and Alden
In an effort to get them involved in the Garden, I am trying to buy
plants that they can 'adopt'

I have planted a row of Alders around our pond which is as close to
Alden as I am likely to get!

I have planted Acer Davidii and Davidia Involucrate for David

But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

Err, no. I suggest you call your next sons (sweet) William and Basil. :-))

Steve



Kay 19-04-2005 11:12 PM

In article , Keith ksalexander@atnoh
amorspam.stisted.freeserve.co.uk writes
Hopefully some of you may be able to help

I have three Sons Peter, David and Alden
In an effort to get them involved in the Garden, I am trying to buy
plants that they can 'adopt'

I have planted a row of Alders around our pond which is as close to
Alden as I am likely to get!

I have planted Acer Davidii and Davidia Involucrate for David


Buddleia davidii (the common bomb site one), Viburnum davidii,
Epimedium, Fritillaria, Lilium, Rosa .....

But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

there's a very nice heather called Peter Sparkes.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Klara 19-04-2005 11:16 PM

In message , Keith
writes
But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?


A rockery?

Living rock cacti?

Rock roses?

Or, more obviously, there is a rose 'Peter Pan'
--
Klara, Gatwick basin

Phil L 19-04-2005 11:28 PM

Klara wrote:
:: In message , Keith
:: writes
::: But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
::: Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?
::
:: A rockery?
::
?
:: Living rock cacti?
::
??
:: Rock roses?
::
???
:: Or, more obviously, there is a rose 'Peter Pan'


--
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
- George W. Bush, 5.8.2004



Roger 19-04-2005 11:31 PM

Keith wrote:
Hopefully some of you may be able to help

I have three Sons Peter, David and Alden
In an effort to get them involved in the Garden, I am trying to buy
plants that they can 'adopt'

I have planted a row of Alders around our pond which is as close to
Alden as I am likely to get!

I have planted Acer Davidii and Davidia Involucrate for David

But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

rgds
Keith


Get some unclassified plant from the Amazon and name it after you son :-)



Roger 19-04-2005 11:36 PM

Phil L wrote:
Klara wrote:
:: In message , Keith
:: writes
::: But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
::: Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?
::
:: A rockery?
::
?
:: Living rock cacti?
::
??
:: Rock roses?
::
???
:: Or, more obviously, there is a rose 'Peter Pan'



More obvious in Italian ;-)

Pietro=Peter, Pietra=Rock.

i.e. The name Peter is derived from stone or rock.

Allthougth I'm sure some highbrow could give you a more fundamental
Latin or Greek explanation!


ZoeM 20-04-2005 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith
Hopefully some of you may be able to help

I have three Sons Peter, David and Alden
In an effort to get them involved in the Garden, I am trying to buy
plants that they can 'adopt'

I have planted a row of Alders around our pond which is as close to
Alden as I am likely to get!

I have planted Acer Davidii and Davidia Involucrate for David

But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

rgds
Keith


Hi Keith

Go to the RHS Plant Finder online and search for Peter. It will give you a long list of all plants which have Peter in their name.

Zoe

Mike Lyle 20-04-2005 01:02 PM

Roger wrote:
Keith wrote:
Hopefully some of you may be able to help

I have three Sons Peter, David and Alden
In an effort to get them involved in the Garden, I am trying to

buy
plants that they can 'adopt'

I have planted a row of Alders around our pond which is as close

to
Alden as I am likely to get!

I have planted Acer Davidii and Davidia Involucrate for David

But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

rgds
Keith


Get some unclassified plant from the Amazon and name it after you

son
:-)


There's _Petroselinum crispum_, aka "parsley". (Honest, I didn't have
to look it up! It just stuck in my memory way back.)

What I did have to look up, though, are three wild pinks:
_Petrorhagia prolifera_ , P. saxifraga_, and _P. nanteullii_. The
first and the last may be useful, as Collins Field Guide says the
little pink flowers are borne in dense clusters, May-September. I've
never seen any of them, though: nanteullii and saxifraga are, it
says, found but rare in Britain.

--
Mike.



Theo Markettos 20-04-2005 01:53 PM

Roger wrote:
More obvious in Italian ;-)

Pietro=Peter, Pietra=Rock.

i.e. The name Peter is derived from stone or rock.

Allthougth I'm sure some highbrow could give you a more fundamental
Latin or Greek explanation!


In Greek:
Petros = Peter = Rock[1]
hence 'petrified' etc.

Theo
(not claiming to be highbrow, just Greek :-)

[1] In Modern Greek rock is 'petra' (feminine). It's not 'stone', which is
'lithos' (eg lithography)

Miss Perspicacia Tick 20-04-2005 04:58 PM

Phil L wrote:
Klara wrote:
In message , Keith
writes
But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

A rockery?

?
Living rock cacti?

??
Rock roses?

???
Or, more obviously, there is a rose 'Peter Pan'


Obviously R.E. wasn't on the syllabus at whatever school it was you
attended...

--
In memory of MS MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/



Phil L 20-04-2005 05:38 PM

Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
:: Phil L wrote:
::: Klara wrote:
::::: In message , Keith
::::: writes
:::::: But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called
:::::: Peter, no Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?
:::::
::::: A rockery?
:::::
::: ?
::::: Living rock cacti?
:::::
::: ??
::::: Rock roses?
:::::
::: ???
::::: Or, more obviously, there is a rose 'Peter Pan'
::
:: Obviously R.E. wasn't on the syllabus at whatever school it was you
:: attended...

It was but they didn't teach us about Latin / Italian / Greek spellings for
obscure plants, it was more about God, Yahweh, Iseraelites and such likes,
what a strange school you must have attended.
:-p


--
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
- George W. Bush, 5.8.2004



Kay 20-04-2005 06:11 PM

In article , Phil L
writes
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
::
:: Obviously R.E. wasn't on the syllabus at whatever school it was you
:: attended...

It was but they didn't teach us about Latin / Italian / Greek spellings for
obscure plants, it was more about God, Yahweh, Iseraelites and such likes,
what a strange school you must have attended.
:-p

Maybe it's a girls' school thing - you mean you didn't get the biblical
story about Jesus referring to Peter as his 'rock' (or something like
that ...)?

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Sacha 20-04-2005 06:13 PM

On 19/4/05 22:57, in article , "Keith"
wrote:

Hopefully some of you may be able to help

I have three Sons Peter, David and Alden
In an effort to get them involved in the Garden, I am trying to buy
plants that they can 'adopt'

I have planted a row of Alders around our pond which is as close to
Alden as I am likely to get!

I have planted Acer Davidii and Davidia Involucrate for David

But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

There's a rhododendron called 'Blue Peter'. But what about "Peter Peter
Pumpkin Eater"? He can nurture that himself!
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)


Mike Lyle 20-04-2005 06:29 PM

Kay wrote:
In article , Phil L
writes
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Obviously R.E. wasn't on the syllabus at whatever school it was

you
attended...


It was but they didn't teach us about Latin / Italian / Greek
spellings for obscure plants, it was more about God, Yahweh,
Iseraelites and such likes, what a strange school you must have
attended. :-p

Maybe it's a girls' school thing - you mean you didn't get the
biblical story about Jesus referring to Peter as his 'rock' (or
something like that ...)?


Matt.16.18: ...thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my
church; and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.

Bizarre kind of RE that didn't mention it, or that "Peter" was the
big fisherman's nickname.

--
Mike.



Phil L 20-04-2005 07:11 PM

Kay wrote:
:: In article , Phil L
:: writes
::: Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
:::::
::::: Obviously R.E. wasn't on the syllabus at whatever school it was
::::: you attended...
:::
::: It was but they didn't teach us about Latin / Italian / Greek
::: spellings for obscure plants, it was more about God, Yahweh,
::: Iseraelites and such likes, what a strange school you must have
::: attended. :-p
:: Maybe it's a girls' school thing - you mean you didn't get the
:: biblical story about Jesus referring to Peter as his 'rock' (or
:: something like that ...)?

Hmmm, no not really, we didn't get any biblical stories at all, it was more
a kind of 'debate' type lesson where the teacher would put forward a topic
(maybe religion related, I can't remember) and the whole class would argue
against each other...he would sit on his desk watching the battle unfold and
only ever chirped in if it got too heated. - it wasn't a religious school,
so RE itself wasn't a study of the christian religion, more a study of
religion per se.


--
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
- George W. Bush, 5.8.2004



p00kie 20-04-2005 08:11 PM


"Keith" wrote in message
...
Hopefully some of you may be able to help

I have three Sons Peter, David and Alden
In an effort to get them involved in the Garden, I am trying to buy plants
that they can 'adopt'

I have planted a row of Alders around our pond which is as close to Alden
as I am likely to get!

I have planted Acer Davidii and Davidia Involucrate for David

But can I find a Tree or for that matter anything called Peter, no
Anyone know of any plants with Peter in their name?

rgds
Keith


Found this :
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan..._filifera.html



Mike Lyle 20-04-2005 08:48 PM

Phil L wrote:
Kay wrote:
In article , Phil

L
writes
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Obviously R.E. wasn't on the syllabus at whatever school it

was
you attended...

It was but they didn't teach us about Latin / Italian / Greek
spellings for obscure plants, it was more about God, Yahweh,
Iseraelites and such likes, what a strange school you must have
attended. :-p
Maybe it's a girls' school thing - you mean you didn't get the
biblical story about Jesus referring to Peter as his 'rock' (or
something like that ...)?


Hmmm, no not really, we didn't get any biblical stories at all, it
was more a kind of 'debate' type lesson where the teacher would put
forward a topic (maybe religion related, I can't remember) and the
whole class would argue against each other...he would sit on his

desk
watching the battle unfold and only ever chirped in if it got too
heated. - it wasn't a religious school, so RE itself wasn't a study
of the christian religion, more a study of religion per se.


I'm all for that. But, OT, it's quite impossible to understand whole
chunks of our culture without some knowledge of the Bible: I wish
schools could find a way of dealing with the problem. (I was amused a
while ago to learn of a school which had placed religious education
in the Humanities Department!)

--
Mike.



Keith 20-04-2005 09:15 PM

Thanks all there are some gems there, both plants and the slightly ot
thread has given me an additional route to explore

rgds
Keith

Kay 20-04-2005 09:29 PM

In article , Phil L
writes
Hmmm, no not really, we didn't get any biblical stories at all, it was more
a kind of 'debate' type lesson where the teacher would put forward a topic
(maybe religion related, I can't remember) and the whole class would argue
against each other...he would sit on his desk watching the battle unfold and
only ever chirped in if it got too heated. - it wasn't a religious school,
so RE itself wasn't a study of the christian religion, more a study of
religion per se.


I guess you're a lot younger than me ;-)
That sort of thing was considered very 'advanced' in my day.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Sacha 22-04-2005 07:55 AM

On 20/4/05 20:48, in article , "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

snip

I'm all for that. But, OT, it's quite impossible to understand whole
chunks of our culture without some knowledge of the Bible: I wish
schools could find a way of dealing with the problem. (I was amused a
while ago to learn of a school which had placed religious education
in the Humanities Department!)


When I visited Florence and went round the Uffizi Gallery, I realised that
without *some* knowledge of Christianity, many of the paintings were
meaningless - beautifully executed of course, wonderful to look at and enjoy
but definitely enriched by even a little knowledge.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)


Miss Perspicacia Tick 22-04-2005 03:45 PM

Kay wrote:
In article , Phil L
writes
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

Obviously R.E. wasn't on the syllabus at whatever school it was you
attended...


It was but they didn't teach us about Latin / Italian / Greek
spellings for obscure plants, it was more about God, Yahweh,
Iseraelites and such likes, what a strange school you must have
attended. :-p

Maybe it's a girls' school thing - you mean you didn't get the
biblical story about Jesus referring to Peter as his 'rock' (or
something like that ...)?


Not only was it an all girls' school - it was a convent (The Sisters of the
Holy Cross)! R.E. was compulsory up to O Level. Now, it's not a convent (the
nuns have been put out to pasture) and they accept boys in the nursery and
infants. All the nuns were Sister Mary somebody-or-other - apart from the
headmistress who was Sister Kevin Arthur Russell. It wasn't until recently I
learned that there really /was/ a St Kevin - but I cannot find a St Arthur,
nor a St Russell (some things I've read have canonised King Arthur but how
can he be a saint when he didn't exist?).

Sorry to drag this even more OT. ;o)

Sarah


--
In memory of MS MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/



Phil L 22-04-2005 04:09 PM

Martin wrote:
:: On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:45:48 +0100, "Miss Perspicacia Tick"
:: wrote:
::
::: Kay wrote:
:::: In article ,
:::: Phil L writes
::::: Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
:::::::
::::::: Obviously R.E. wasn't on the syllabus at whatever school it
::::::: was you attended...
:::::
::::: It was but they didn't teach us about Latin / Italian / Greek
::::: spellings for obscure plants, it was more about God, Yahweh,
::::: Iseraelites and such likes, what a strange school you must have
::::: attended. :-p
:::: Maybe it's a girls' school thing - you mean you didn't get the
:::: biblical story about Jesus referring to Peter as his 'rock' (or
:::: something like that ...)?
:::
::: Not only was it an all girls' school - it was a convent (The
::: Sisters of the Holy Cross)! R.E. was compulsory up to O Level.
::: Now, it's not a convent (the nuns have been put out to pasture)
::: and they accept boys in the nursery and infants. All the nuns
::: were Sister Mary somebody-or-other - apart from the headmistress
::: who was Sister Kevin Arthur Russell. It wasn't until recently I
::: learned that there really /was/ a St Kevin - but I cannot find a
::: St Arthur, nor a St Russell (some things I've read have canonised
::: King Arthur but how can he be a saint when he didn't exist?).
:::
::: Sorry to drag this even more OT. ;o)
::
:: Are you sure that Kevin Arthur Russell wasn't in drag?

My thoughts exactly!


--
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
- George W. Bush, 5.8.2004




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