In what way is it illegal to kill vermin by drowning them? One of the
best ways I would have thought. I believe it is illegal to drown
humans, but grey squirrels?
John

"John Edgar" wrote in message
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In what way is it illegal to kill vermin by drowning them? One of the
best ways I would have thought. I believe it is illegal to drown
humans, but grey squirrels?

It was technically made illegal by virtue of the Wild Mammals Protection Act
1996 which included drowning amongst the list of abuses outlawed from 30th
April 1997. I don't know whether the RSPCA has actually brought charges
against anyone for drowning a wild mammal, though, or if they have, whether
the perpetrator was convicted.

Please explain the use of the word "tosser" in this context

Are squirrels even aware that they are being systematically destroyed?
I think not so who cares?

How would they find out? Another unworkable law like the law making use
of mobiles while driving illegal. Who cares about abuse of vermin like
grey squirrels anyway?

Why am I vile for wanting to kill vermin? I might be considered vile if
I wanted to kill another human, but vermin? What is so special about
grey squirrels? Please explain your point of view.

How can it be inhumane? We are not dealing with humans, but animals and
vermin at that.

"John Edgar" wrote in message
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Please explain the use of the word "tosser" in this context


What context? You've snipped it all.

"John Edgar" wrote in message
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How would they find out? Another unworkable law like the law making use
of mobiles while driving illegal. Who cares about abuse of vermin like
grey squirrels anyway?


How would who find out what?

Whilst many people accept the necessity of pest control, that doesn't mean
they would condone wanton cruelty to the 'pest'. Would you think it OK to
kill squirrels by roasting them alive over a slow fire, for example?

"John Edgar" wrote in message
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How can it be inhumane? We are not dealing with humans, but animals and
vermin at that.


I'm assuming you are responding to a post which suggested that killing
squirrels by drowning might be considered inhumane?

Do you believe it is impossible to be inhumane to any non-human animal? If
so, how would you define 'humane'?

"John Edgar" wrote in message
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In what way is it illegal to kill vermin by drowning them? One of the
best ways I would have thought. I believe it is illegal to drown
humans, but grey squirrels?
John

IIRC the killing of any animal whether vermin or not, must be done humanely
and without causing pain or fear,and drowning is likely to be slow, terror
inducing and as stressful as possible. Totally unaceptable IMO.

"BAC" wrote in message
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"John Edgar" wrote in message
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In what way is it illegal to kill vermin by drowning them? One of the
best ways I would have thought. I believe it is illegal to drown
humans, but grey squirrels?

It was technically made illegal by virtue of the Wild Mammals Protection
Act
1996 which included drowning amongst the list of abuses outlawed from 30th
April 1997. I don't know whether the RSPCA has actually brought charges
against anyone for drowning a wild mammal, though, or if they have,
whether
the perpetrator was convicted.


I suspect if someone was seen to drown an animal and the witness reported
it and could prove it, the perp' would be prosecuted and convicted.

"John Edgar" wrote in message
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How would they find out? Another unworkable law like the law making use
of mobiles while driving illegal. Who cares about abuse of vermin like
grey squirrels anyway?

Any normal right thinking human being does. To be totally indifferent to
any creature's terror and suffering would make you a psychopath.

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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from "pammyT" contains these words:

I am sorry but the thought of any creature struggling to breath for
several
minutes while underwater turns my stomach. I nearly drowned as a
youngster
and it was not pleasant and certainly not fast. The memory has never
left me
and I would never advocate using this bloody inhumane method of killing
anything.

Much as I dislike grey squirrels (except in a pie or casserole) I have
to agree with the above. I rescued some sort of fly from rainwater in a
container, yesterday as it struggled to get a grip on the plastic sides.

Any squirrels I kill depart suddenly, with a ·22" hole in the head.

I have no problem with killing vermin. In theory, I have no problem with
killing any animal. But as a rational compassionate human being, I abhoir
cruelty and suffering. If you must eradicate vermin, for heaven's sake, do
it fast without making the creature suffer. It doesn't *know* it is vermin.
It doesn't act the way it does, simply to make a nuisance of itself. It is
simply being a grey squirrel.

"John Edgar" wrote in message
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How can it be inhumane? We are not dealing with humans, but animals and
vermin at that.

ITY are a troll. Either that or you are clinically a phychopath, unable to
imagine anything from another perspective and have no concept of another's
suffering.