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Peter Coddington 22-05-2005 03:40 PM

Suffolk Punch Mower.
 
I have a Qualcast Suffolk Punch petrol mower (43S,Model, 17 inch cut)
Cutting the lawn the blades suddenly stopped revolving and the engine became
louder. Nothing caught in the blades. Clutch adjustment seems OK,Looking at
the drive chain this adjustment is as it should be but with the engine
running the top pulley is not revolving so therefore it is not turning the
bottom pulley to drive the blades.
With the engine turned off I can turn the chain by hand and both pulleys
revolve.
The nut securing the pulley is tight so it seems that the shaft on which the
pulley is attached has come adrift somewhere.
Not being a mechanic is seems to be an expensive engine strip down job? Any
views please.?
Peter.



Jupiter 22-05-2005 06:47 PM

On Sun, 22 May 2005 15:40:59 +0100, "Peter Coddington"
wrote:

I have a Qualcast Suffolk Punch petrol mower (43S,Model, 17 inch cut)
Cutting the lawn the blades suddenly stopped revolving and the engine became
louder. Nothing caught in the blades. Clutch adjustment seems OK,Looking at
the drive chain this adjustment is as it should be but with the engine
running the top pulley is not revolving so therefore it is not turning the
bottom pulley to drive the blades.
With the engine turned off I can turn the chain by hand and both pulleys
revolve.
The nut securing the pulley is tight so it seems that the shaft on which the
pulley is attached has come adrift somewhere.
Not being a mechanic is seems to be an expensive engine strip down job? Any
views please.?
Peter.

If I remember rightly the pulley is keyed on to the shaft on these
machines. It's a semi-circular key which fits into a slot on the
shaft and corresponding slot on the pulley, preventing it from turning
on the shaft (or the shaft turning without the pulley). It may have
sheared off - it's a fail safe in case the blades are seriously
obstructed as can happen if a stone gets between the cylinder and the
bottom blade. I'm not certain about this but it's probably worth
removing the pulley (you'll have to stop the engine from turning as
you unscrew the nut) and having a look. It shouldn't need a complete
engine stripdown. Another point - is there a disengageable dog clutch
between the engine and the top pulley? If so, is everything OK there?
Dredging my memory again, some of the Suffolks had a centrifugal
clutch which engages the drive as the engine speeds up, like on a
moped. If the friction material on the clutch shoes wears out or gets
contaminated with oil nothing moves!


Peter Coddington 23-05-2005 12:10 PM


"Jupiter" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 May 2005 15:40:59 +0100, "Peter Coddington"
wrote:

I have a Qualcast Suffolk Punch petrol mower (43S,Model, 17 inch cut)
Cutting the lawn the blades suddenly stopped revolving and the engine

became
louder. Nothing caught in the blades. Clutch adjustment seems OK,Looking

at
the drive chain this adjustment is as it should be but with the engine
running the top pulley is not revolving so therefore it is not turning

the
bottom pulley to drive the blades.
With the engine turned off I can turn the chain by hand and both pulleys
revolve.
The nut securing the pulley is tight so it seems that the shaft on which

the
pulley is attached has come adrift somewhere.
Not being a mechanic is seems to be an expensive engine strip down job?

Any
views please.?
Peter.

If I remember rightly the pulley is keyed on to the shaft on these
machines. It's a semi-circular key which fits into a slot on the
shaft and corresponding slot on the pulley, preventing it from turning
on the shaft (or the shaft turning without the pulley). It may have
sheared off - it's a fail safe in case the blades are seriously
obstructed as can happen if a stone gets between the cylinder and the
bottom blade. I'm not certain about this but it's probably worth
removing the pulley (you'll have to stop the engine from turning as
you unscrew the nut) and having a look. (SNIP)


Many thanks, looking again I find that the pulley has in fact slipped off
the shaft.
Now to try and get the nut off as all is turning and I need to get to gips
with a solid circular thing with 2 slots in before I can remove the nut.
No doubt there is some sort of tool to fit into the two slots.?
Peter.



Jupiter 23-05-2005 06:31 PM

On Mon, 23 May 2005 12:10:48 +0100, "Peter Coddington"
wrote:


"Jupiter" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 22 May 2005 15:40:59 +0100, "Peter Coddington"
wrote:

I have a Qualcast Suffolk Punch petrol mower (43S,Model, 17 inch cut)
Cutting the lawn the blades suddenly stopped revolving and the engine

became
louder. Nothing caught in the blades. Clutch adjustment seems OK,Looking

at
the drive chain this adjustment is as it should be but with the engine
running the top pulley is not revolving so therefore it is not turning

the
bottom pulley to drive the blades.
With the engine turned off I can turn the chain by hand and both pulleys
revolve.
The nut securing the pulley is tight so it seems that the shaft on which

the
pulley is attached has come adrift somewhere.
Not being a mechanic is seems to be an expensive engine strip down job?

Any
views please.?
Peter.

If I remember rightly the pulley is keyed on to the shaft on these
machines. It's a semi-circular key which fits into a slot on the
shaft and corresponding slot on the pulley, preventing it from turning
on the shaft (or the shaft turning without the pulley). It may have
sheared off - it's a fail safe in case the blades are seriously
obstructed as can happen if a stone gets between the cylinder and the
bottom blade. I'm not certain about this but it's probably worth
removing the pulley (you'll have to stop the engine from turning as
you unscrew the nut) and having a look. (SNIP)


Many thanks, looking again I find that the pulley has in fact slipped off
the shaft.
Now to try and get the nut off as all is turning and I need to get to gips
with a solid circular thing with 2 slots in before I can remove the nut.
No doubt there is some sort of tool to fit into the two slots.?
Peter.


There's probably a special Suiffolk tool, but often something can be
improvised. Would a flat piece of metal, drilled to take 2 protruding
bolts to engage the slots serve the purpose?


Peter Coddington 23-05-2005 11:47 PM


"Jupiter" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 May 2005 12:10:48 +0100, "Peter Coddington"
wrote:


"Jupiter" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 22 May 2005 15:40:59 +0100, "Peter Coddington"
wrote:

I have a Qualcast Suffolk Punch petrol mower (43S,Model, 17 inch cut)
Cutting the lawn the blades suddenly stopped revolving and the engine

became
louder. Nothing caught in the blades. Clutch adjustment seems

OK,Looking
at
the drive chain this adjustment is as it should be but with the

engine
running the top pulley is not revolving so therefore it is not

turning
the
bottom pulley to drive the blades.
With the engine turned off I can turn the chain by hand and both

pulleys
revolve.
The nut securing the pulley is tight so it seems that the shaft on

which
the
pulley is attached has come adrift somewhere.
Not being a mechanic is seems to be an expensive engine strip down

job?
Any
views please.?
Peter.

If I remember rightly the pulley is keyed on to the shaft on these
machines. It's a semi-circular key which fits into a slot on the
shaft and corresponding slot on the pulley, preventing it from turning
on the shaft (or the shaft turning without the pulley). It may have
sheared off - it's a fail safe in case the blades are seriously
obstructed as can happen if a stone gets between the cylinder and the
bottom blade. I'm not certain about this but it's probably worth
removing the pulley (you'll have to stop the engine from turning as
you unscrew the nut) and having a look. (SNIP)


Many thanks, looking again I find that the pulley has in fact slipped off
the shaft.
Now to try and get the nut off as all is turning and I need to get to

gips
with a solid circular thing with 2 slots in before I can remove the nut.
No doubt there is some sort of tool to fit into the two slots.?
Peter.


There's probably a special Suiffolk tool, but often something can be
improvised. Would a flat piece of metal, drilled to take 2 protruding
bolts to engage the slots serve the purpose?


The previous 'thing' I mentioned was of course a metal cap fitted onto the
bolt on top of the nut to secure it.
This is the one with two small slots in it where a tool would fit to turn it
..
May have to improvise.




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