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TheS 21-02-2003 09:51 AM

Plums
 


Dwayne wrote:
What you get will be the same as the root stock used in the grafting
process. The results may still be very good.
I have planted peach trees that sprouted and grew in a compost pile, and
they produced some very good peaches.


Really? I'd imagine you'd get the same as the grafted stock, not the
rootstock. The problem being that the grafted stock doesn't come true
from seed, in general.

TheS


anton 21-02-2003 07:56 PM

Plums
 

Dwayne wrote in message ...



Will Plum stones, apple/orange pips, etc, grow in the garden or indoors

in
Compost, & if so are there particular techniques required to grow them?



[top-posting moved for clarity]

What you get will be the same as the root stock used
in the grafting process.


Naaah. What you get will be nothing to do with the rootstock.
There's no genetic connection btw the rootstock & the fruit.

A seedling from an apple pip will probably be not much like
the parent apple; I believe that you'll have a better chance of something
like the parent plum from a plumstone; no idea for oranges.

have fun
--
Anton




Kay Easton 21-02-2003 09:20 PM

Plums
 
In article , Dwayne
writes
What you get will be the same as the root stock used in the grafting
process.


Why will it be the same as the rootstock? Are you saying that a pip from
a pear grown on quince rootstock will grow into a quince, rather than a
pear seedling whose parentage depends on what other pear tree in the
area pollinated it?

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/

Dwayne 22-02-2003 03:17 PM

Plums
 
I was told that by a gentleman who raised peaches and apples professionally
for resale to the public. I ask him about what kind of results I wuld
receive from my trees after I planted two peach trees that had come up from
a compost pile.

The original peaches were bought in a large box packed in the orchard and
sold in a store, purchased and canned by one of our friends. As I said
before both trees produced good peaches, but they ripened 3 weeks apart.
That was kind of nice, because I didnt have to hurry with my canning.
Apparently the two trees I was given that grew from seed, had two different
kinds of rootstock. One from a peach that ripens later than the other.

.That is what I was told by a man who should know. If he was wrong, then
so am I, but my experience leads me to believe he was correct.

Try it and see, then let us all know.

Good luck. Dwayne


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Dwayne
writes
What you get will be the same as the root stock used in the grafting
process.


Why will it be the same as the rootstock? Are you saying that a pip from
a pear grown on quince rootstock will grow into a quince, rather than a
pear seedling whose parentage depends on what other pear tree in the
area pollinated it?

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/




Kay Easton 23-02-2003 12:47 AM

Plums
 
In article , Dwayne
writes
I was told that by a gentleman who raised peaches and apples professionally
for resale to the public. I ask him about what kind of results I wuld
receive from my trees after I planted two peach trees that had come up from
a compost pile.

The original peaches were bought in a large box packed in the orchard and
sold in a store, purchased and canned by one of our friends. As I said
before both trees produced good peaches, but they ripened 3 weeks apart.
That was kind of nice, because I didnt have to hurry with my canning.
Apparently the two trees I was given that grew from seed, had two different
kinds of rootstock. One from a peach that ripens later than the other.

.That is what I was told by a man who should know. If he was wrong, then
so am I, but my experience leads me to believe he was correct.

There are other possible reasons a) the original peaches were different
b) they were pollinated by different trees c) genetic variability. All
these reasons are plausible and do not depend on transference of genetic
material from the rootstock to the seed without affecting the grafted
plant.
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/

anton 24-02-2003 09:03 PM

Plums
 

Dwayne wrote in message ...
I was told that by a gentleman who raised peaches and apples professionally
for resale to the public. I ask him about what kind of results I wuld
receive from my trees after I planted two peach trees that had come up from
a compost pile.

The original peaches were bought in a large box packed in the orchard and
sold in a store, purchased and canned by one of our friends. As I said
before both trees produced good peaches, but they ripened 3 weeks apart.
That was kind of nice, because I didnt have to hurry with my canning.
Apparently the two trees I was given that grew from seed, had two different
kinds of rootstock. One from a peach that ripens later than the other.



You've got it wrong, Dwayne. You normally don't even know
when the 'peach from the rootstock' ripens, because the peach doesn't come
from the rootstock, it comes from the scion (the
bit grafted on top of the rootstock)

.That is what I was told by a man who should know. If he was wrong, then
so am I, but my experience leads me to believe he was correct.



You misunderstood what he said.

--
Anton






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