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Best tomato
What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the best tasting
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Tone wrote:
"Harold Walker" wrote: What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the best tasting tomato(es)? Who's 'yall' ? Someone in the U.S.A., I imagine - after all, he's psoting in u.r.g, so "the other side of the big pond" is likely to be the U.S.A. |
On Fri, 27 May 2005 08:22:17 -0400, "Harold Walker"
wrote: What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the best tasting tomato(es)? Cherry tomatoes, particularly Gardeners' delight and Sungold. BTW folks, note the "tother" which suggests a Yorkshireman! Pam in Bristol |
"Tone" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 May 2005 08:22:17 -0400, "Harold Walker" wrote: What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the best tasting tomato(es)? Who's 'yall' ? Y'all meaning all those Brits residing in the UK/////H -- Just livin the Vida Sofa |
"Pam Moore" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 May 2005 08:22:17 -0400, "Harold Walker" wrote: What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the best tasting tomato(es)? Cherry tomatoes, particularly Gardeners' delight and Sungold. BTW folks, note the "tother" which suggests a Yorkshireman! Pam in Bristol aye lass it does indeed...born and bred their but asconded to the colony west of Ireland...H |
Harold Walker wrote:
aye lass it does indeed...born and bred their but asconded to the colony west of Ireland...H You mean Rockall? That means you must be a gannet? :-) Theo |
"Theo Markettos" wrote in message ... Harold Walker wrote: aye lass it does indeed...born and bred their but asconded to the colony west of Ireland...H You mean Rockall? That means you must be a gannet? :-) Theo Have seen many a gannet in my days but have not been elevated to their hights yet....my tomato plants might soar into the air but my feet are still firmly planted on the ground.H |
"Harold Walker" wrote in message
... What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the best tasting tomato(es)? I like 'Romano' a plum tomato. |
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from Theo Markettos contains these words: Harold Walker wrote: aye lass it does indeed...born and bred their but asconded to the colony west of Ireland...H You mean Rockall? That means you must be a gannet? :-) Don't be silly - Rockall's Rockall use to live on - it's often under water. He means St. Kilda, of course. (Or Hirta, for those in the know.) -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Harold Walker wrote:
:: What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the :: best tasting tomato(es)? Any tomato which has been growing in the recent past! - seriously, any kind of greenhose tomato is better than the most expensive supermarket ones, they have an aroma / taste, which shop bought ones do not have. Personally I like Moneymaker and Shirley, especially when they are slighlty underripe and melted with some strong cheese, cherry toms are OK for salads, kebabs, packed lunches or just eating while you are watering... -- If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs. |
"Phil L" wrote in message . uk... Harold Walker wrote: :: What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the :: best tasting tomato(es)? Any tomato which has been growing in the recent past! - seriously, any kind of greenhose tomato is better than the most expensive supermarket ones, they have an aroma / taste, which shop bought ones do not have. Personally I like Moneymaker and Shirley, especially when they are slighlty underripe and melted with some strong cheese, cherry toms are OK for salads, kebabs, packed lunches or just eating while you are watering... I remember growing MoneyMaker back in the 30's....and dad before that....an old timer indeed is Moneymake -- If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs. |
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from "Phil L" contains these words: Harold Walker wrote: :: What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the :: best tasting tomato(es)? Any tomato which has been growing in the recent past! - seriously, any kind of greenhose tomato is better than the most expensive supermarket ones, they have an aroma / taste, which shop bought ones do not have. Personally I like Moneymaker and Shirley, especially when they are slighlty underripe and melted with some strong cheese, cherry toms are OK for salads, kebabs, packed lunches or just eating while you are watering... I really can't let that pass unremarked: Moneymaker, if given loving care and lots of proper feed is almost edible, otherwise it's about as appetising as a wet dishcloth. In my estimation it's a weed. Shirley though, is excellent. Alicante (in the Moneymaker family) is also IMO of good flavour. I don't like the little tomatoes much as the skins tend to be very tough. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
:: :: I really can't let that pass unremarked: Moneymaker, if given :: loving care and lots of proper feed is almost edible, otherwise :: it's about as appetising as a wet dishcloth. In my estimation it's :: a weed. :: Each to his own I suppose! - I like MM in cooked dishes, especially curries and chillis....I've grown Shirley this year and they are a good all round tom, cooking, salads sandwiches etc - I've never actually grown MM, but my dad used to grow them on and off along with a few other varieties. :: Shirley though, is excellent. Alicante (in the Moneymaker family) :: is also IMO of good flavour. I don't like the little tomatoes much :: as the skins tend to be very tough. :: I like a tomato with a bit of tang, hence my recommendation for partially ripened ones with melted cheddar! -- If God had intended us to drink beer, He would have given us stomachs. |
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from "Phil L" contains these words: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: :: I really can't let that pass unremarked: Moneymaker, if given :: loving care and lots of proper feed is almost edible, otherwise :: it's about as appetising as a wet dishcloth. In my estimation it's :: a weed. :: Each to his own I suppose! - I like MM in cooked dishes, especially curries and chillis....I've grown Shirley this year and they are a good all round tom, cooking, salads sandwiches etc - I've never actually grown MM, but my dad used to grow them on and off along with a few other varieties. Try Romano (plum) tomatoes for cooking - they knock seven varieties of spots off Moneymaker. :: Shirley though, is excellent. Alicante (in the Moneymaker family) :: is also IMO of good flavour. I don't like the little tomatoes much :: as the skins tend to be very tough. :: I like a tomato with a bit of tang, hence my recommendation for partially ripened ones with melted cheddar! Shirley has a tang (and flavour) when ripe, as does Ailsa Craig. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message k... The message from "Phil L" contains these words: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: :: I really can't let that pass unremarked: Moneymaker, if given :: loving care and lots of proper feed is almost edible, otherwise :: it's about as appetising as a wet dishcloth. In my estimation it's :: a weed. :: Each to his own I suppose! - I like MM in cooked dishes, especially curries and chillis....I've grown Shirley this year and they are a good all round tom, cooking, salads sandwiches etc - I've never actually grown MM, but my dad used to grow them on and off along with a few other varieties. Try Romano (plum) tomatoes for cooking - they knock seven varieties of spots off Moneymaker. :: Shirley though, is excellent. Alicante (in the Moneymaker family) :: is also IMO of good flavour. I don't like the little tomatoes much :: as the skins tend to be very tough. :: I like a tomato with a bit of tang, hence my recommendation for partially ripened ones with melted cheddar! Shirley has a tang (and flavour) when ripe, as does Ailsa Craig. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. Miracle Sweet has a real nice flavor sweetish but with just the right amount of tang.........H http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from (Steve Harris) contains these words: In article , (Pam Moore) wrote: Gardeners' delight Absolutely, although this year, I'm also trying Black Russian, Yellow Perfection and Tigerella There's a new one coming onto the market called Zebra. I think it must have spots on... D,R,AH -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Jupiter contains these words: I'm trying Gardener's Delight for the first time this year. but I've seen conflicting advice about side shoots. Should they be removed or should the plant be allowed to bush? Depends how far apart they are, and on whether you want a smaller number of large tomatoes, or a lot more smaller ones. Personally, I go for the latter, and seldom pinch out all the side shoots from any tomato plant. You might need to feed them a bit more, though. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 16:00:06 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from Jupiter contains these words: I'm trying Gardener's Delight for the first time this year. but I've seen conflicting advice about side shoots. Should they be removed or should the plant be allowed to bush? Depends how far apart they are, and on whether you want a smaller number of large tomatoes, or a lot more smaller ones. Personally, I go for the latter, and seldom pinch out all the side shoots from any tomato plant. You might need to feed them a bit more, though. Thanks. I'll try it each way on different plants. |
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(Jupiter) wrote: Gardener's Delight for the first time this year. but I've seen conflicting advice about side shoots. Should they be removed or should the plant be allowed to bush? Conventional wisdom is to remove side shots. Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com A useful bit of gardening software at http://www.netservs.com/garden/ |
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from (Steve Harris) contains these words: In article , (Jupiter) wrote: Gardener's Delight for the first time this year. but I've seen conflicting advice about side shoots. Should they be removed or should the plant be allowed to bush? Conventional wisdom is to remove side shots. I put that down to the gardening faction which always wants the biggest and best-looking specimens for showing (off). I've tried it both ways, and as I sold the tomatoes by the pound, I chose the more profitable option. Leaving some laterals on when well into the season increased the eventual yield, and the slightly smaller later tomatoes had a more concentrated flavour. I used to have about 24 Alicante, 20 Ailsa Craig and 24 Shirley, most years, and any excess seedlings planted out, with none of the side-shoots pinched out. The outside ones were divine: small, firm and packed with flavour, and at the end of the season, there were plenty of green ones for chutney. Mind you, the soil in the greenhouse and any beds was rather, er, rich, as I had fourteen goats and a few hundred rabbits. Though I had poultry too, most of them were free-range (on another site) and what chicken shmanure I did collect went on the compost. I had some excellent rhubarb, too. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
In article , Jupiter
writes I'm trying Gardener's Delight for the first time this year. but I've seen conflicting advice about side shoots. Should they be removed or should the plant be allowed to bush? Gardener's Delight can be either grown as a bush, i.e. leaving the side shoots on, or as a cordon, pinching them out. The difference is the number and size of tomatoes the plant will produce. G.D. can also be grown indoors or outdoors. We have normally grown them as cordons indoors and bush outdoors, mainly on grounds of space required, but this year we are trying them outside as cordons. I planted out four of them yesterday with their first trusses of flowers already showing, and all side-shoots pinched out. -- Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. |
On Fri, 27 May 2005 08:22:17 -0400, "Harold Walker"
wrote: What do y'all on tother side of the big pond consider to be the best tasting tomato(es)? Just received July copy of GW mag. Monty's favourite varieties a Andine Cornue, San Marzano 2 (never heard of those) Brandywine (Bob Flowerdew has also recommended this) Black Russian and finally Gardeners' Delight. Can't say if it tells us where to buy the seeds of the unusual ones. Anyone know? Pam in Bristol |
my favourite tomato experiance so far (in my short growing experiance)
was last year have a tomato salad of yellow-orange sungella, orange-red gardeners delight and red-pink tumbling toms. A feast for the eyes as well as for the tum. From now on im going to try and get as much colour and variety into my tomato crop as possible. sarah Harold Walker wrote: "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message k... The message from "Phil L" contains these words: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: :: I really can't let that pass unremarked: Moneymaker, if given :: loving care and lots of proper feed is almost edible, otherwise :: it's about as appetising as a wet dishcloth. In my estimation it's :: a weed. :: Each to his own I suppose! - I like MM in cooked dishes, especially curries and chillis....I've grown Shirley this year and they are a good all round tom, cooking, salads sandwiches etc - I've never actually grown MM, but my dad used to grow them on and off along with a few other varieties. Try Romano (plum) tomatoes for cooking - they knock seven varieties of spots off Moneymaker. :: Shirley though, is excellent. Alicante (in the Moneymaker family) :: is also IMO of good flavour. I don't like the little tomatoes much :: as the skins tend to be very tough. :: I like a tomato with a bit of tang, hence my recommendation for partially ripened ones with melted cheddar! Shirley has a tang (and flavour) when ripe, as does Ailsa Craig. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. Miracle Sweet has a real nice flavor sweetish but with just the right amount of tang.........H http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
In message , Pam Moore
writes Just received July copy of GW mag. Monty's favourite varieties a Andine Cornue, San Marzano 2 (never heard of those) Brandywine (Bob Flowerdew has also recommended this) Black Russian and finally Gardeners' Delight. Can't say if it tells us where to buy the seeds of the unusual ones. Anyone know? Pam in Bristol Found this: http://www.gardenpassion.cfdeveloper...m?recordID=164 looks like someone who doesn't sell seeds but trades them? In Hungary, but that should be ok by post. They have an enormous number of tomato and pepper seeds.... -- Klara, Gatwick basin |
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
There's a new one coming onto the market called Zebra. I think it must have spots on... There was an item on You and Yours (R4) yesterday about the 'Strawmato' which apparently looks like a strawberry but tastes like a very sweet tomato. Recommended for eating with chocolate. I think I'll pass, myself... theo |
Theo Markettos wrote:
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: There's a new one coming onto the market called Zebra. I think it must have spots on... There was an item on You and Yours (R4) yesterday about the 'Strawmato' which apparently looks like a strawberry but tastes like a very sweet tomato. Recommended for eating with chocolate. The blurb at http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...00/4597975.stm is very odd. Lots of tomatoes can already be "eaten in salads, as a snack on its own". Is this just an admission that a lot of tomatoes sold in supermarkets are practically tasteless? I think I'll pass, myself... The chocolate sounds a good idea though. theo Alan |
Alan R Williams wrote:
Theo Markettos wrote: [...] There was an item on You and Yours (R4) yesterday about the 'Strawmato' which apparently looks like a strawberry but tastes like a very sweet tomato. Recommended for eating with chocolate. [...] I think I'll pass, myself... The chocolate sounds a good idea though. I detest the idea that tomatoes should be sweet: sugar is not flavour. But I did once experimentally make a sweet pie with tomatoes and sugar, as one might with apples or plums etc, just to see what it'd be like. It was horrible. -- Mike. |
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from Theo Markettos contains these words: Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: There's a new one coming onto the market called Zebra. I think it must have spots on... There was an item on You and Yours (R4) yesterday about the 'Strawmato' which apparently looks like a strawberry but tastes like a very sweet tomato. Recommended for eating with chocolate. I don't remember the 'sreawmato' bit, but I do remember hearing (very recently) a recommendation of dipping cherry tomatoes in dark chocolate. I think I'll pass, myself... Yes. I prefer to dip crystallised ginger in the dark chocolate. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
In article , Mike Lyle mike_lyle_uk@REMO
VETHISyahoo.co.uk writes I detest the idea that tomatoes should be sweet: sugar is not flavour. But I did once experimentally make a sweet pie with tomatoes and sugar, as one might with apples or plums etc, just to see what it'd be like. It was horrible. I agree with that. There's a trend towards sweetness in lots of foodstuffs, both grown and manufactured, mostly quite unnecessary and spoiling the true flavour. If some sweetness is required either for personal taste, or because the dish is too sharp, sugar can help, but we tend to use honey in cases like that. -- Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs. |
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from Jaques d'Alltrades contains these words: 'sreawmato' How did that happen? (I'm sure that's not what I tryped!) -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from jane contains these words: Now fresh ones are a different story (she says, reaching for a punnet of cherry tomatoes kept for snacking on... roll on my own crop...) IRTA 'roll my own crop'... But I wouldn't roll on it if I were you: squished tomatoes make a mess of your clothes, and even if you take them off first, the pips hide in yer wrinkles and germinate when you're having tea with the Queen. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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