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Chelsea on TV, was HMP Leyhill
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in
: Strange, though, this perpetual telly misconception that we are more interested in people than in the subject-matter. I mean, what was the point of pouring a few drinks into Terry Wogan and then getting him to tell us he wasn't remotely interested in gardening? (In fact, what on earth was he even _doing_ at the show?) Yes, Titchmarsh on his own would have done it better -- loved his royal gardens, for example. They treat sport with much more concentration and respect: I suppose gardening is done by the "lifestyle" department, where evanescent fluff is the aim. Maybe they should hand it over to a natural history team, or even the sports crowd, who are actually interested in their subjects. For those who wish to view, http://www.rhs.org.uk/chelsea/2005/index.asp has panoramas of each garden, and a full plant list. The plant lists are not illustrated, but otherwise this idea seems sound, and has the merit that they are also printable. Victoria -- gardening on a north-facing hill in South-East Cornwall -- |
Janet wrote after Victoria typed these words: For those who wish to view, http://www.rhs.org.uk/chelsea/2005/index.asp has panoramas of each garden, and a full plant list. The plant lists are not illustrated, but otherwise this idea seems sound, and has the merit that they are also printable. Thanks. but it doesn't change the point. The BBC provided two Chelsea slots daily for a week, and all too obviously couldn't think how the hell to fill in the time; while gardeners up and down the country just wanted a camera to point at the gardens, plants, displays, etc, in focus, for a decent length of time, *without* a musical background, and *with*a voice-over or caption of plant names. If you're reading this, BBC researchers, , we don't need or want to see a presenter. Just pick one who hasn't got a speech impediment, is interested in plants, and let them do a voiceover while the camera points at gardens, plants, displays etc. How hard is that? Yes and it would be a lot cheaper with no "celebrities" cluttering up the screen wasting valuable time. When we used to visit Chelsea every year we always made straight for the marquee to see the plants, then wiz through the trade stands, and only afterwards did we try to see the gardens if we felt like it and had the time. Often we didn't bother, no relevance to us at all, academic interest only. So these Chelsea TV shows really get me down because they have their priorities totally the other way around. Presumably to keep the interest of the great unwashed who seem only interested in celebrities(?) and pretty pictures judging by some magazines I've seen in the wife's hairdressers. Perhaps we could have just one Chelsea program each year for gardeners/plants people, and like you say, few faces except those of the growers, just a voiceover where needed, lots of plants and Latin names on everything. In depth plants. If they insist on a celebrity then Roy Lancaster as the voice perhaps? Dream on Bob! -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
Just a couple of belated words about Chelsea this year.
Firstly, it was much less crowded and you could get nearer to the gardens without being hassled as much as in previous years (we went on the Wednesday). Secondly, as for the dire TV coverage, I have to agree it wasn't as good as in previous years. Does anyone know which garden didn't get a medal? Alan Titchmarsh referred to this on screen but I don't know if he said which particular garden it was. Also, Fleming's Australian garden, to me, wasn't that impressive when I saw it on TV but when I saw the actual garden I realised it was absolutely amazing and that the TV coverage had spent too long concentrating on the waterfall and the patio chairs and not enough time on the planting, which complemented the hard landscaping wonderfully. Glenda -- 10 Years! Coronation Street Weekly Updates for th'Internet http://www.corrieweeklyupdates.btinternet.co.uk |
"Janet Baraclough" wrote snipped If you're reading this, BBC researchers, ......... Janet We ALWAYS go on about how bad the BBC gardening programs are (Ground Force - GW - Chelsea) They are iether NOT listening or they don't give a monkeys what viewers think! Jenny |
On 2/6/05 17:44, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote: Janet wrote after Victoria typed these words: For those who wish to view, http://www.rhs.org.uk/chelsea/2005/index.asp has panoramas of each garden, and a full plant list. The plant lists are not illustrated, but otherwise this idea seems sound, and has the merit that they are also printable. Thanks. but it doesn't change the point. The BBC provided two Chelsea slots daily for a week, and all too obviously couldn't think how the hell to fill in the time; while gardeners up and down the country just wanted a camera to point at the gardens, plants, displays, etc, in focus, for a decent length of time, *without* a musical background, and *with*a voice-over or caption of plant names. If you're reading this, BBC researchers, , we don't need or want to see a presenter. Just pick one who hasn't got a speech impediment, is interested in plants, and let them do a voiceover while the camera points at gardens, plants, displays etc. How hard is that? Yes and it would be a lot cheaper with no "celebrities" cluttering up the screen wasting valuable time. I think those celebs are under contract and probably get no extra pay. snip -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:18:39 +0000 (UTC), Glenda
wrote: Does anyone know which garden didn't get a medal? Alan Titchmarsh referred to this on screen but I don't know if he said which particular garden it was. I've been wondering about this too. Felt sorry for the only one not to get a medal at all! Pam in Bristol |
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:29:25 +0100, Janet Baraclough wrote:
If you're reading this, BBC researchers, , we don't need or want to see a presenter. Just pick one who hasn't got a speech impediment, is interested in plants, and let them do a voiceover while the camera points at gardens, plants, displays etc. How hard is that? Not hard at all but does require someone to actually work... You don't have to do much real work to put a drunken irishman who knows a little bit about plants in front of a camera. You do if you want shots of plants and the correctly spelled common and latin names on screen at the same time, doubly so if you don't know one plant from the next. I suggest that people visit and follow up their concerns via the following link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint.shtml or use one of the other methods listed on: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/ The noise created by the recent changes to the weather forecasts has been noticed, although not much has actually been done in response. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Victoria Clare contains these words: For those who wish to view, http://www.rhs.org.uk/chelsea/2005/index.asp has panoramas of each garden, and a full plant list. The plant lists are not illustrated, but otherwise this idea seems sound, and has the merit that they are also printable. Thanks. but it doesn't change the point. The BBC provided two Chelsea slots daily for a week, and all too obviously couldn't think how the hell to fill in the time; while gardeners up and down the country just wanted a camera to point at the gardens, plants, displays, etc, in focus, for a decent length of time, *without* a musical background, and *with*a voice-over or caption of plant names. If you're reading this, BBC researchers, , we don't need or want to see a presenter. Just pick one who hasn't got a speech impediment, is I am a DG fan but I do agree that his chelsea stuff was shite. It simply did not work. However, what you refer to as a speech impediment is the way working class Irish people often speak. It is no more a speech impediment than a cockney saying lovely motor and not pronouncing the t or a glaswegian saying hey yeeuuugh jimmy or a Surbiton Tory saying "car" and not pronouncing the r. That was how I spoke until I was 6 and a posh aunt freaked and beat it out of me. Irish people have been pronouncing dere "th"s like dat for tree hundred years. Big deal. interested in plants, and let them do a voiceover while the camera points at gardens, plants, displays etc. How hard is that? Janet Janet. |
Glenda wrote in message ... Also, Fleming's Australian garden, to me, wasn't that impressive when I saw it on TV but when I saw the actual garden I realised it was absolutely amazing and that the TV coverage had spent too long concentrating on the waterfall and the patio chairs and not enough time on the planting, which complemented the hard landscaping wonderfully. Glenda -- 10 Years! Coronation Street Weekly Updates for th'Internet http://www.corrieweeklyupdates.btinternet.co.uk I believe this is the garden - with pool - that I deeply disapproved of. The pool was also intended to be used as a swimming pool. It was also expressly filled with inky black water so you couldn't see how shallow the pool was. Am I the only person who thought this was lethal? A pool that looks deeper than it is ... a swimmer who dives in, counting on that apparent depth ... this is a perfect receipe for a broken neck or back. What do others think? Spider |
On 4/6/05 15:39, in article , "Spider"
wrote: Glenda wrote in message ... Also, Fleming's Australian garden, to me, wasn't that impressive when I saw it on TV but when I saw the actual garden I realised it was absolutely amazing and that the TV coverage had spent too long concentrating on the waterfall and the patio chairs and not enough time on the planting, which complemented the hard landscaping wonderfully. Glenda -- 10 Years! Coronation Street Weekly Updates for th'Internet http://www.corrieweeklyupdates.btinternet.co.uk I believe this is the garden - with pool - that I deeply disapproved of. The pool was also intended to be used as a swimming pool. It was also expressly filled with inky black water so you couldn't see how shallow the pool was. Am I the only person who thought this was lethal? A pool that looks deeper than it is ... a swimmer who dives in, counting on that apparent depth ... this is a perfect receipe for a broken neck or back. What do others think? While I take your point, but speaking as one who grew up on an island, the first rule of diving is don't unless and until you know the depth of the water and what is beneath it! What I thought was the most utter rubbish that verged on the insulting, was all that fatuous 'teasing' stuff about someone cramming himself into a wet suit and the camera play on his supposed six pack or firkin or it is. I hope the director got a thrill out of it - we were even further incensed by this waste of our licence money. -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
Sacha wrote:
[...] While I take your point, but speaking as one who grew up on an island, the first rule of diving is don't unless and until you know the depth of the water and what is beneath it! A friend's brother long ago accidentally killed himself by diving off Carmarthen Bridge. At that spot, I've actually seen somebody wade across at low tide: I was working for the local newspaper group at the time, but we suppressed the information in case some other clot decided to imitate. (You see? The drunken hacks can be responsible citizens!) What I thought was the most utter rubbish that verged on the insulting, was all that fatuous 'teasing' stuff about someone cramming himself into a wet suit and the camera play on his supposed six pack or firkin or it is. I hope the director got a thrill out of it - we were even further incensed by this waste of our licence money. I was furious! I could have bitten a horseshoe nail in half, as an uncle used to say. That didn't _verge_ on the insulting: it was a punch in the bloody face. As I said the other day, they treat sport with more respect. At the beginning they suggested, or maybe even said in so many words, that this was the something like the horticultural equivalent of the World Cup; and that's true -- so why not treat it that way? -- Mike. |
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