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from Jupiter contains these words: On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:42:24 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from "flash" contains these words: So far I have tapped up the Parish Council and am in the process of applying for a lottery grant. You'd have to produce a pretty revolutionary plan to qualify for a lottery grant. Indeed. Nowadays you would have to establish that you were encouraging a suitable quota of ethnic minorities etc. to join your allotment society or give good reasons for their absence. You would also have to account for any lack of disabled people and the sexually diverse. My local Council, in its application form for an allotment, requires, among other intrusive and unnecessary questions, to know the applicant's ethnic origins and what the applicant intends to grow on the allotment. Possibly unconnected, or perhaps not, there are several allotment sites around the town completely unused and badly overgrown. My name is Osama bin Compost and I come from Saud^H^H^H^Palestine. I intend growing castor oil plants for the seeds. Do you have any starter industrial units to let? -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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from Kay contains these words: and what the applicant intends to grow on the allotment. Could be relevant .... suppose I intended to use my allotment to carry out breeding experiments on thistles? ;-) Or experiments with fibres for making rope... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:49:42 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote: The message from Kay contains these words: and what the applicant intends to grow on the allotment. Could be relevant .... suppose I intended to use my allotment to carry out breeding experiments on thistles? ;-) Or experiments with fibres for making rope... Perhaps even more politically incorrect, without the danger of illegality as might occur with the growing of rope fibre, would be the growing of tobacco plants. |
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The message
from Jupiter contains these words: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:49:42 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote: The message from Kay contains these words: and what the applicant intends to grow on the allotment. Could be relevant .... suppose I intended to use my allotment to carry out breeding experiments on thistles? ;-) Or experiments with fibres for making rope... Perhaps even more politically incorrect, without the danger of illegality as might occur with the growing of rope fibre, would be the growing of tobacco plants. And to stir the CAP police into action, say it's for making insecticide... -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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In article , David david@chap
elhouse.demon.co.uk writes In article , flash writes Hi, Due to a failure not to take one step backwards when everyone else did, I am now treasurer of a newly founded allotment society. The allotment site could do with some investment and I am looking around for any organisations I could obtain a grant from - in conjunction with the societies own fund raising activities. So far I have tapped up the Parish Council and am in the process of applying for a lottery grant. Anyone else got any ideas or experiences? TIA. Try your local county councillor for some of their "locality budget" this is money they have available to distribute at their discretion In our area this is called MICE money :-) (We used to have RAT money too but that seems to be no longer available) -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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In article , Jupiter
writes On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:40:20 +0100, Kay wrote: In article , Jupiter writes My local Council, in its application form for an allotment, requires, among other intrusive and unnecessary questions, to know the applicant's ethnic origins Usually not compulsory to answer this. It's there to guard against unintentional discrimination. How do you know you are not discriminating if you don't know the applicant's ethnic group? I never answer that kind of question on principle. None of their business and also facilitiates illegal positive discrimination and discrimination against white people. I suppose you can take the view that it facilitates illegal discrimination either way. It is hard to discriminate directly unless you have *some* way (however inaccurate) of inferring ethnic group (or whatever is your chosen basis for discrimination). But if you as an organisation are genuinely trying to avoid discrimination, then indirect discrimination is the problem, not direct discrimination, and the only way in which you can see whether your policies have led to discrimination is to look at the ethnic (or gender or disability or age) groupings of the people who have benefited. But, as you rightly say, no-one has a right to that information, so all you as an organisation can do is hope people will trust you enough to give you that information voluntarily. Could be relevant .... suppose I intended to use my allotment to carry out breeding experiments on thistles? ;-) Wouldn't be any worse than the Council's own current experiments in breeding elderberry, brambles, nettles, couch grass, etc. on the derelict allotment sites. True :-) -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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