daytime vine weevils?
 

Everything I have read about the says they are nite time chaps. But I have
something thats very weevil like and there are loads over my salad crops and
corn and wallflowers. I have had weevil larve over winter so I am still
thinking its these chaps? They are very slow and easy to catch but there are
so many that in a day they have decimated my salads so much so I gave up.

I would says they are max 5mm long, round bottom end with a slight stripe.
They have a darker head and nose and the nose is very pointy. Are these
weevils?

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Everything I have read about the says they are nite time chaps. But I have
something thats very weevil like and there are loads over my salad crops and
corn and wallflowers. I have had weevil larve over winter so I am still
thinking its these chaps? They are very slow and easy to catch but there are
so many that in a day they have decimated my salads so much so I gave up.

I would says they are max 5mm long, round bottom end with a slight stripe.
They have a darker head and nose and the nose is very pointy. Are these
weevils?

Weevils are distinguished from beetles by having a long pillar-thing
sticking out of the front of their face - a rostrum???? - with, IIRC,
feeler like things on the end of it.

They also tend to be slow moving and careful

This is weevils in general - there are lots of different species of
them, not just vine weevils.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

Hello amber,
What you are describing is the characteristic shape of a weevil -
because of the pointed nose.
I am thinking that this isn't a vine weevil. There are many weevils
and a number are pests - boring into grains of wheat, leaf eaters etc.
Here is a link that has a pic of a vine weevil on it.
http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile...vineweevil.asp
the picture of the weevil is not the best but note the dark colour and
the small spots in a line.

Am sorry but I am not an entamologist and cant identify it. You say
they are on the mentioned plants, is there any damage bening done to
the tops of the plants? (for it is the grubs that normally damage
roots)
Regards
Cliff
Bawtry, Doncaster, South Yorkshire

"Amber" wrote in message
...
Everything I have read about the says they are nite time chaps. But I have
something thats very weevil like and there are loads over my salad crops
and
corn and wallflowers. I have had weevil larve over winter so I am still
thinking its these chaps? They are very slow and easy to catch but there
are
so many that in a day they have decimated my salads so much so I gave up.

I would says they are max 5mm long, round bottom end with a slight stripe.
They have a darker head and nose and the nose is very pointy. Are these
weevils?

--

email happy at dryad dot org


Its possible to see vine weevil larvae anytime of day in the right soil

Water well with a solution of Armillotox every 10 days meanwhile fish out
and squash every one you can find

I have seen/read the HDR and RHS pages already its their info thats
making me wonder what I have! I have been looking for weeks without any
real luck ;-((((

The plants looks like they have flea beetle damage. As I have been hit
hard by that its hard to tell whats the weevils and whats the flea
beetles. But the weevils are in very large numbers atm so I am
presuming the damage is from them. There are lots of small holes and
pittings on the leaves. As yet I have not seen any grubs since the
Spring which ate the strawberrys and also the succulent plants (which
is the source of that infection).

This seems to be a new attack. I had the numbers bad a month or so back
and then not so many. Now they are back in full force. I have dumped in
boiling water a load of plants (RIP to the plants) and used sticky tape
on the other plants. But I have spent many days hunting the web under
all sorts to try and ID them. I am very nervous as I collect cacti and
succulents and these things are all over (in and out of the
greenhouse). I also did a vine weevil biological control last week -
but keeping the soil wet is hard plus some of this stuff I just killed
off is new plantings.

I have been trying to find a page thats a list of UK weevils or UK
beetles but without any luck. They either have poor pictures or just
say about one or the other. There must be something. I guess my next
thing would be bottling some put and posting it to the RHS?

When I try and pick them put they fall onto the soil or the center of
the plant so are hard to get in any numbers.

Thanks for the reply so far.
amber

In article .com,
Amber writes
This seems to be a new attack. I had the numbers bad a month or so back
and then not so many. Now they are back in full force. I have dumped in
boiling water a load of plants (RIP to the plants) and used sticky tape
on the other plants. But I have spent many days hunting the web under
all sorts to try and ID them. I am very nervous as I collect cacti and
succulents and these things are all over (in and out of the
greenhouse).

I've never had a weevil attack on my cacti.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"nambucca" wrote in message
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"Amber" wrote in message
...
Everything I have read about the says they are nite time chaps. But
I have
something thats very weevil like and there are loads over my salad
crops
and
corn and wallflowers. I have had weevil larve over winter so I am
still
thinking its these chaps? They are very slow and easy to catch but
there
are
so many that in a day they have decimated my salads so much so I
gave up.

I would says they are max 5mm long, round bottom end with a slight
stripe.
They have a darker head and nose and the nose is very pointy. Are
these
weevils?

--

email happy at dryad dot org


Its possible to see vine weevil larvae anytime of day in the right
soil

Water well with a solution of Armillotox every 10 days meanwhile fish
out
and squash every one you can find

This is a good photo. of a black vine weevil.

http://tinyurl.com/b4ugv

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

I have had succulent death by weevil grubs. Its a very sad moment.

So it doesn't matter what type of weevil it is its all the same
treatment?

"Amber" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have seen/read the HDR and RHS pages already its their info thats
making me wonder what I have! I have been looking for weeks without any
real luck ;-((((
snip
amber

Would it be possible to get a picture of them on the web?
I can always put it on for you if you can't do that yourself.......
jenny

"Amber" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have seen/read the HDR and RHS pages already its their info thats
making me wonder what I have! I have been looking for weeks without any
real luck ;-((((

The plants looks like they have flea beetle damage. As I have been hit
hard by that its hard to tell whats the weevils and whats the flea
beetles. But the weevils are in very large numbers atm so I am
presuming the damage is from them. There are lots of small holes and
pittings on the leaves. As yet I have not seen any grubs since the
Spring which ate the strawberrys and also the succulent plants (which
is the source of that infection).

This seems to be a new attack. I had the numbers bad a month or so back
and then not so many. Now they are back in full force. I have dumped in
boiling water a load of plants (RIP to the plants) and used sticky tape
on the other plants. But I have spent many days hunting the web under
all sorts to try and ID them. I am very nervous as I collect cacti and
succulents and these things are all over (in and out of the
greenhouse). I also did a vine weevil biological control last week -
but keeping the soil wet is hard plus some of this stuff I just killed
off is new plantings.

I have been trying to find a page thats a list of UK weevils or UK
beetles but without any luck. They either have poor pictures or just
say about one or the other. There must be something. I guess my next
thing would be bottling some put and posting it to the RHS?

When I try and pick them put they fall onto the soil or the center of
the plant so are hard to get in any numbers.

Thanks for the reply so far.
amber


Vine weevils have quite obvious orange spots on their dull black bodies and
its very unusual to find them in the sort of numbers described. what other
weevils may be responsible I am afraid I have no idea.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

I just tried to take a picture but they are about 1/4cm in size. I
tried to zoom in but its just blur.

If its another type of weevil could it come off the field at the end of
the street? I am presuming all with have those nasty grubs.

In article .com,
Amber writes
I just tried to take a picture but they are about 1/4cm in size. I
tried to zoom in but its just blur.

Have you got a digital camera? Use whatever options you have on it to
take a clear photo from as close as possible at as high a resolution as
you can manage, then use paintshop pro or similar to cut off all the
border area, and magnify the picture as much as you can without losing
clarity.

If its another type of weevil could it come off the field at the end of
the street? I am presuming all with have those nasty grubs.

They'll all have larvae, which will eat a variety of different things.

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

My camera only does 10x it just isn't strong enough. I did find a
picture online that looks like what I can see :
http://www.bioimages.org.uk/HTML/P5/P54161.HTM
The closeup of the above weevil I don't think is mine. But it shows how
small they are and so how hard to ID. I did find a HDRA forum posting
from a year ago fo someone with tonnes of weevils over some veggies.
Noone answered her post though.
Provado's vine weevil killer now does 4 months. Hopefully it will kill
off the grubs. I also got some derris that does weevils (doesn't
specify types)

I got some insect killer dust by PY. Which is a pain to apply but seems
to have gotton the blighters. It says that it is ok on veggies and
contains pyrethrins and piperonly butoxide.

Unfortunately Armillotox is no longer approved for such a treatment