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Many organisms eat the leaves, fruit and nuts of trees. When using systemic
by Bayer, who claim their products are plant food as well, the good guys get
a dose as well as the so-called, yet to be proven, bad guys. I believe in
predisposition. When energy reserves are low or lacking secondary organisms
will move in. Product pushers tend to have the secondaries as the target.
Its like hunting and aiming at shadows. Its very upsetting to hear that
they have teamed up with Arbor Day Foundation. Their add claiming they can
sell you products that feed trees mentions their connection with Arbor Day.
I did not know Arbor Day teamed up with product pushers.

BTW for the record. Food is a substance that provides and energy source,
mostly. Nutrient is a
substance that provides an energy source, elements, and other substances
essential for life, in types and amounts that can provide a healthy life.
Fertilizer is a substance that provides elements, as salts mostly, or in
bonded forms, that require microorganisms to alter to forms that can be
absorbed by plants. Trees do not get food from the soil. They manufacture
their own food. Why lie to people and mislead them? You get your joys that
way? Trees cannot absorb a nutrient or food. They do absorb essential
elements. There are 17 essential elements - 14 From The Soil. Carbon,
Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium, Calcium, Sulfur,
Magnesium, Manganese, Iron, Copper, Boron, Molybdenum, Chlorine, Zinc,
Nickel [Sodium, Cobalt, Selinium?]. They are elements. Elements are single
atoms or groups of atoms of similar type. They are not food or are they
nutrients. A list of elements can be found he
http://www.webelements.com/

You do not have to agree with my definitions but I will be understood. I do
not mind criticism as much as I do being misunderstood. So you will find I
often resort to defining by terms. Consider poor Joe who liked alcohol.
Drank methanol rather than ethanol. He then quickly learned, as his brain
got burned. That words are important after all.


I suggest these articles for a better understanding of tree chemistry.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html


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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.


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On May 17, 9:17 pm, "symplastless" wrote:
Many organisms eat the leaves, fruit and nuts of trees.


Including humans. Systemics are discouraged for use
with any food crop.
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"Father Haskell" wrote in message
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On May 17, 9:17 pm, "symplastless" wrote:
Many organisms eat the leaves, fruit and nuts of trees.


Including humans. Systemics are discouraged for use
with any food crop.


Sure, for humans. What about other organisms that have a right to be here
as well as eat healthy food? It hurts. Many people in the country where I
live have a hard time respecting someone of a different color yet along
another organism.


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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.


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