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Old 23-07-2003, 07:22 AM
Jay Casey
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Does anyone here know?


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Old 23-07-2003, 06:22 PM
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Howdy folks,
In regards to this question:
"Jay Casey" wrote in message ...
Does anyone here know?


Perdue l credits the Japanes Kihara and Nishiyama working from
1939-1947.
There is a book called "20th Century Bioscience: Professor O.J. Eigsti
and the Seedless Watermelon" by John H. Woodburn, published in 2000,
has anyone in this group read it ? Come on, we're among friends you
can admit it. I'm looking for a good summer read for the beach,
thought I might check this out.

UC Davis, that annoying school that beats out UT in the Botany
Department ratings has a page on the history of Watermelons, seedless
and otherwise at:

http://agronomy.ucdavis.edu/gepts/pb...elon/melon.htm

For folks who want to know what our State legislators are up to when
they are not squabbling about redistricting can check out the
resolution that was voted on proclaiming Knox City Texas as the
"Seedless Watermelon Capitol of the World" at :

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/7...t/HC00245I.HTM

I guess this distinquishes Knox from Luling which is the "Regular
Watermelon Capitol of the World"

Speaking of Watermelons, anyone figured out the secret of the
Watermelon art popping up around Austin?

Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com
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Old 23-07-2003, 11:42 PM
Rusty Mase
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Default Who invented seedless watermelon (and when)?

On 23 Jul 2003 10:13:09 -0700, (Steve Coyle)
wrote:

UC Davis, that annoying school that beats out UT in the Botany
Department ratings


No wonder, UT does not have a Botany Department.

Rusty Mase


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Old 24-07-2003, 02:33 AM
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Japanese scientists?
Someone told me that it was a Korean scientist named Dr. Wu or Dr. Woo. I
was hoping if someone could confirm it.
It ended up with more supposedly inventors.
Thanks for detailed info, though.
It's is amazing how knowledgeable some folks are on seemingly the most
trivial topics. :-) Web is great for finding such gems.


"Steve Coyle" wrote in message
om...
Howdy folks,
In regards to this question:
"Jay Casey" wrote in message

...
Does anyone here know?


Perdue l credits the Japanes Kihara and Nishiyama working from
1939-1947.
There is a book called "20th Century Bioscience: Professor O.J. Eigsti
and the Seedless Watermelon" by John H. Woodburn, published in 2000,
has anyone in this group read it ? Come on, we're among friends you
can admit it. I'm looking for a good summer read for the beach,
thought I might check this out.

UC Davis, that annoying school that beats out UT in the Botany
Department ratings has a page on the history of Watermelons, seedless
and otherwise at:

http://agronomy.ucdavis.edu/gepts/pb...elon/melon.htm

For folks who want to know what our State legislators are up to when
they are not squabbling about redistricting can check out the
resolution that was voted on proclaiming Knox City Texas as the
"Seedless Watermelon Capitol of the World" at :

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/7...t/HC00245I.HTM

I guess this distinquishes Knox from Luling which is the "Regular
Watermelon Capitol of the World"

Speaking of Watermelons, anyone figured out the secret of the
Watermelon art popping up around Austin?

Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com



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Old 24-07-2003, 03:02 AM
Steve Coyle
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Default Who invented seedless watermelon (and when)?

Rusty Mase wrote in message . ..
On 23 Jul 2003 10:13:09 -0700, (Steve Coyle)
wrote:

UC Davis, that annoying school that beats out UT in the Botany
Department ratings


No wonder, UT does not have a Botany Department.



UT needs to get on the stick with it's promo. Here is their Botany website:
http://www.botany.utexas.edu/

Steve Coyle
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Old 24-07-2003, 04:42 AM
Rusty Mase
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Default Who invented seedless watermelon (and when)?

On 23 Jul 2003 18:56:36 -0700, (Steve Coyle)
wrote:

UT needs to get on the stick with it's promo. Here is their Botany website:
http://www.botany.utexas.edu/

All that is left of the UT Botany Department on the internet and
otherwise is what Malcolm Brown has salvaged at the url you cite. I
think the department sort of evaporated about 5 years ago. So they
are not going to get on the stick with this at all.

Rusty Mase


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Old 24-07-2003, 07:22 AM
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:33:24 -0500, Rusty Mase
wrote:

On 23 Jul 2003 18:56:36 -0700, (Steve Coyle)
wrote:

UT needs to get on the stick with it's promo. Here is their Botany website:
http://www.botany.utexas.edu/

All that is left of the UT Botany Department on the internet and
otherwise is what Malcolm Brown has salvaged at the url you cite. I
think the department sort of evaporated about 5 years ago.


....as did zoology and microbiology. Couple of years ago UT
reorganized the administration of all their biology departments,
following the general trend in biology academia to horizontal
integration along organismal-ecological and
molecular-cellular-physiological lines (makes one worry for the
physiological ecologists). Read about it he
http://www.utexas.edu/cons/admin/pub...99/biosci.html

Botany graduate and undergraduate degrees still exist at UT, just
called "Plant Biology" now.
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Old 25-07-2003, 12:32 AM
Steve Coyle
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Default Who invented seedless watermelon (and when)?

Howdy folks,
In regards to this post:

"Jay Casey" wrote in message m...
Japanese scientists?
Someone told me that it was a Korean scientist named Dr. Wu or Dr. Woo. I
was hoping if someone could confirm it.
It ended up with more supposedly inventors.
Thanks for detailed info, though.

I spent a little time and found the article from Perdue I had read
about seedless watermelons. It gives the lineage of the folks working
on the seedless watermelon aside, from Kihara and Nishiyama, this
gentleman O.J. Eigsti did an intensive breeding program and seems like
an interesting character, I'd like to read more about.
Doesn't surprise me about the Japanese, I imagine getting
watermelon seeds out of a tatami mat could be quite a problem in the
kitchen.
The Perdue site also talks about green melons from the mideast and
the problems with yellow watermelons. In addition it has results from
field trials (In Indiana ) of a number of seedless watermelons.
It's at:
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/p...93/v2-547.html

Take care,
Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com
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Old 27-07-2003, 05:43 AM
Jay Casey
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Default Who invented seedless watermelon (and when)?

I just learned that the information on Purdue U site is indeed correct.
Another Korean pointed me to a Korean site that clarified it.
For a long time, Koreans thought Dr. Wu Jang Choon invented seedless
watermelon, when in fact, he was the first Korean to demonstrated it in
Korea.
He never claimed to be the inventor. He was merely demonstrating the power
of the genetics. However, this revered Korean scientist was falsely
credited (by and amongst Koreans) for decades after his death in 1959.
It is indeed a Japanese scientist who invented it. Thanks for your info.


"Steve Coyle" wrote in message
om...
Howdy folks,
In regards to this post:

"Jay Casey" wrote in message

m...
Japanese scientists?
Someone told me that it was a Korean scientist named Dr. Wu or Dr. Woo.

I
was hoping if someone could confirm it.
It ended up with more supposedly inventors.
Thanks for detailed info, though.

I spent a little time and found the article from Perdue I had read
about seedless watermelons. It gives the lineage of the folks working
on the seedless watermelon aside, from Kihara and Nishiyama, this
gentleman O.J. Eigsti did an intensive breeding program and seems like
an interesting character, I'd like to read more about.
Doesn't surprise me about the Japanese, I imagine getting
watermelon seeds out of a tatami mat could be quite a problem in the
kitchen.
The Perdue site also talks about green melons from the mideast and
the problems with yellow watermelons. In addition it has results from
field trials (In Indiana ) of a number of seedless watermelons.
It's at:
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/p...93/v2-547.html

Take care,
Steve Coyle
www.austingardencenter.com



 




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