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Old 27-04-2014, 09:35 AM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On 2014-04-27 08:11:55 +0000, said:

On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 17:18:55 +0100, Sacha
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On 2014-04-26 13:47:43 +0000,
said:


I have no solution to suggest. If you take the argument to it's
logical conclusion the executioner is also a murderer. In a conflict
situation that is how he/she would be treated.


But we're not talking about a time of conflict when - frankly - chaos
rules. We're talking about in a normally-functioning society, or as
normal as it gets. So we're talking about upholding the rule of law IF
the law provides for execution, whereupon the executioner is an
instrument and upholder of the law.


In any society that allows some people to kill others - chaos does
rule.


In your opinion. In that of others, justice prevails. If you jail a
murderer who then gets out and does it again, that is chaos and it is
certainly not justice. Luckily, I don't have to make those decisions
but if I did, I'd probably do as some other countries do and have a
sort of 'grade' system. And I would most definitely have much stiffer
prison sentences than we have now. In some segments of society an ASBO
or a shortish prison sentence is a badge of honour, something to be
laughed at and boasted about by idiots who think it proves they're
'hard'. Double or triple the sentences and make life uncomfortable and
there would be a lot less re-offending. I was sent a photo of a 'lady'
all dressed up in her garish finery for a day at Aintree, showing off
her ankle tag. The ultimate fashion accessory.
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