Fran Farmer wrote:
songbird wrote:
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i think the major improvement in basic nutrition
is best summed up as "eat real food". i.e. stay
away from overly processed foods or things that
don't look like anything real, most of what is in
the grocery store these days is packaged technofoods
that are largely made up of variations on corn, soy,
sugars and various flavorings and preservatives.

The list of ingredients for some 'foods' is amazing. I spend a lot of
time reading labels and I'm often amazed at the way that producers faff
so much with some products

a lot of it comes down to a few needs of a packaged
food and of course money. keep it from rotting for a
long time and keep it palatable while sitting on a shelf
for months at a time. sugars, salts, additives to keep
fats stable, keep moisture in the product and not out
condensing on the inside of the packaging. and then
the money factor where the added ingredients are often
cheaper.


the recommendation to eat a lot of protein is
largely wrong for humans, we're omnivores, after
so many grams of protein in a diet the rest is
not needed and is very wasteful if you consider
what it takes to raise and process (aside from
plant sources).

:-)) Yup. As a beef producer, I've read a lot on the inefficiencies in
the production of meat protein vs vegetable protein. I also learned the
hard way about the involvement of animal products in colon cancer.

i'm glad you made it through the treatments.


higher fiber foods are great in
general too as they provide bulk, making a person
feel actually satisfied from a meal, various
probiotic foods are good.

i stay away from too much salt, and get plenty
of exercise, that seems to be the most consistent
advice you can get from various cultural studies.

Yep. Avoid fat, sugar and salt, get lots of exercise and hydrate well
say all of my health professionals. Shame I didn't pay more attention
before I got 3 major cancers (I don't count the various non terminal
skin cancers)

wow!


After having tried to get sense out of someone who I had thought was
bright, curious and could do research, I decided that I'd no longer
bother trying to make any sense of what people believe when it comes to
what they eat and the reasons for why they eat what they do.

i try to eat mainly what i grow and what i
cook as i pretty much like almost anything. for
the largest meal of the day (lunch) i eat enough
to get me through to dinner and a day of gardening.
i can eat about what i want now with me being
more active. for later on, i eat a large bowl of
shredded cabbage and carrots with various things
added and a sweet and sour dressing of some type.
keeps me full and mostly away from the night time
snacks.

I find that I like a full tummy at night. Dunno why but that's the way
I am.

the large salad keeps me feeling full all night.
i joke about how much exercise i get just eating it.
normally, with a very dense food with a lot of
calories, i can eat way too fast (two minutes or
less) and that makes it easy to overdo it. with the
large bowl of salad i can't eat it that fast and
the calories are much less.


songbird