On 12/06/2014 8:11 AM, Todd wrote:
On 06/10/2014 10:31 PM, Fran Farmer wrote:
"Hunter-gatherers" ate whatever they could get their hands
on. And when it was available, they always ate too much.
They also had a lot more variety than we do today. A "well
balanced diet" and didn't even realize it. And no T2 Diabetes.

Where is your cite to prove that there was no T2 diabetes amongst hunter
gatherers?

Hi Fran,

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Diabetes%2...er%20gatherers

You didn't actually read the cites there did you? Or if you did, you
clearly didn't understand the more scholarly ones that show that there
is a genetic preponderance amongst hunter gatherers to develop type 2
diabetes and why that is so.

Hint: That preponderance has NOTHING to do with carbohydrates or the
consumption of them.

There is a nice article on the Hadza over at:
http://originalpeople.org/hadza-people-diabetes/

Many in public health believe that a major culprit is
our sedentary lifestyle. Faced with relatively few
physical demands today, our bodies burn fewer calories
than they evolved to consume — and those unspent calories
pile up over time as fat. The World Health Organization,
in discussing the root causes of obesity, has cited a
“decrease in physical activity due to the increasingly
sedentary nature of many forms of work, changing modes
of transportation and increasing urbanization.”

This is a nice theory. But is it true? To find out,
my colleagues and I recently measured daily energy
expenditure among the Hadza people of Tanzania, one
of the few remaining populations of traditional
hunter-gatherers. Would the Hadza, whose basic way
of life is so similar to that of our distant
ancestors, expend more energy than we do?

Our findings, published last month in the journal
PLoS ONE, indicate that they don’t, suggesting
that inactivity is not the source of modern obesity.

Studies on the Inuits and the Aleuts too. Returning
to their ancestral diets gets rid of the diabetes.

Unfortunately for Diabetics, they are suffering from a
lot of fat bigotry. T2 Diabetes is a simple injury
caused by consuming unnatural amounts of carbohydrates.

There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. There ARE lots
and lots sites and cites that say that but not one I've yet read could
be considered to be reputable or withstand even basic scrutiny.

You can heal from it, but you have to stop the insult
that caused it in the first place.

Do you actually read what you write to see if it makes any sense?

Here is the thing about fat bigots. They see the
human body as, what we call in engineering terms,
an "open loop" system. It is not. It is one
of the most complex and wonder "closed loop" system
ever created. And being "closed loop", your body
compensates. This is why you can stand on two feet.
This is also why skinny people don't get fat when they
over eat.

The Fat Bigots want Diabetes and obesity to a
"character flaw" in those they "condescend" on.
It is a failure of the control system involved
in the closed loop to compensate. The only
"character flaw" is the bigotry.

You do write a lot of drivel that has nothing to do with what is being
discussed. You might make more sense if you bothered to try to
understand what is being said to you, what you are being asked and why
you are being asked something but more especially you might have a
better understanding if you bothered to actually READ your own cites.

YOU gave cites that show that hunter gatherers have a known
preponderance for developing T2 diabetes.

Their tendency to develop T2 diabetes once they follow a first world
diet has nothing to do with just eating carbohydrates ACCORDING TO YOUR
OWN CITES.

And if you really do insist on being all Paleo because you still choose
to believe it, then you will also stop stuffing your face to excess and
you will get out and do some exercise.

The reasons why you should stop the excess stuffing of your face and get
out and do some exercise are listed in those very Paleo cites YOU gave.
Read them.