On 06/12/2014 12:46 PM, Drew Lawson wrote:
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Todd writes:
On 06/12/2014 09:55 AM, Drew Lawson wrote:
Grow cows. I love to eat cows too. What a silly argument.
Perhaps you can show me a cite for a means to raise cattle that
produces anywhere the same calories/acre that grain does. Without
that, your proposal still reduces the effective food supply.
You missed the point. On soil that won't grow anything
else other than cellulose (grass), grow cows (livestock)
on it. Use the good soil to grow other stuff.
When you switch that land from growing grain to grazing cattle, you
reduce the yield in terms of calories/acre. The world still has
billions of people to feed, and you have just reduced the food
supply. Where do you make up that deficit?
You are still missing what I said. Were the land won't
support other things, grow grass for livestock. I thought
I was pretty clear on that point. Don't use the good
farm land for livestock!
I much prefer steak to bread, but I'm not as comfortable as you
appear to be with suggesting that we willfully require others to
starve.
Where are you getting that I want people to starve? I don't
want anyone to starve! This is one of those arguments where
the news reporter asks, "So, when was the last time you beat
your wife?"
By the way, I think sustainable crops produce higher yields
on the same real estate. Meaning more food. (Tastes better
too.) And, if argibusiness is not careful, all that land
they are currently using right now will go dead and not
be able to produce anything.
By the way, sustainable farmers take that burned out land
(soil) and nurture it back to health. It takes years.
Songbird can probably fill you in on the details. In the
mean time, the land is not producing.
So, you are in favor of burning out all our soil? Why is
it again that you want people to starve? (Just pointing
out the fallacy of your argument. I know you don't.)
Remember, this whole subthread started with you saying that we
should stop farming grain, and David asking how you suggest feeding
the 7 billion humans without grain. You have yet to address that
question.
My suggestion is that we cut back on the things that
cause T2 Diabetes and substitute them with safer things.
The things I eat work fine. Do you need a list?
You will find them at any grocery store's produce
section. Some you have to go to specialty stores,
like Mexican Supermarkets.
I'm happy for you that you like your new diet and lifestyle.
However, that does not address the question.
I think we need to deliberately try to hybridize towards fat
and away from carbs. In the mean time, you can grow all
kinds of other things on land that wheat grows on. Let a
free and open market dictate what.
In the Philippines, where they are not fat, exercise A LOT,
eat rice, and consequently have a T2 Diabetes problem,
they are trying to transition to a special type of corn.
http://balita.ph/2013/07/29/corn-for...research-prof/
By the way, I asked, and that variety of corn is not available
in the United States.
And, I am not trying to rip that piece of pizza out of your
mouth. I am trying to keep your feet from falling off.
T2 Diabetes will come under control when we get the carbs
back to a natural level.
-T