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Default Scientists lie?

Fran Farmer wrote:
songbird wrote:


perhaps Frank feels lonely now that Billy isn't around
to kick his butt once in a while?


Have you heard from Billy? I was just wondering what happened to him a
few days ago.


no, i've not heard anything from Billy in a long
time. i suspect he has gone to the great wild beyond.
i hope otherwise.


Fran, you have far more patience than i would ever
have in dealing with this sort of thing.


I worked for government for 40 years in one capacity or another and I
spent a lot of that time fighting bullshit and propaganda of one sort or
another. All governments try to spread it as does every money making
commercial enterprise. It goes by the name of 'policy' for government
and 'advertising' from commerce.


once you have a tax and spend system in place it
is very hard to get rid of it and everything else
gets plugged into it for the same reason. it is
as close to a self-perpetuating machine that we'll
ever see...


Before our Public Service took on the politicised form favoured by the
US, it was the duty of people such as myself to provide advice "without
fear or favour". That meant we were there to protect the interests of
the citizens of this country and not there just to serve government whim.


it isn't favored by most of us here. my
own version would be quite different if i had
my way (if i were king ).


The perpetuation of bullshit, and especially bullshit based on ignorance
or self interest, gets right up my left nostril. Climate Change denial
is bullshit.


yeah, and every delay in changing policy builds more
compound effects into the system. the skeptics may
complain about the costs of making changes but they
don't ever seem to notice how much it will cost to
move or replace the many trillions of dollars of
infrastructure and the lost and damaged land that will
come from even more sea level increases.

they are arguing about three peanuts in a truckload
not understanding that the truckload is coming down
upon their heads (delusional or magical thinking won't
stop it).


songbird