On 13/02/2015 11:32 AM, Hypatia Nachshon wrote:
On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 6:13:03 AM UTC-8, Fran Farmer wrote:
On 12/02/2015 1:43 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:55:37 +1100, Fran Farmer
wrote:

On 12/02/2015 2:02 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:41:32 -0800, T wrote:


Did you notice that the source you cited got character
assassinated? This is what happens when political correctness
rules science (Lysenkoism).


Your source was called out for his well-known agenda, his repeated
denial of basic scientific facts and his overall lack of credibility.

That "journalist" really is lacking in credibility but then if we go on
to the links back to Homewood, The Tele source, at least it can be said
that he put more effort into his hoodwinking than the "journalist".

You've got to hand it to Homewood, he's got a nice little hoodwink line
going on there. People such as the Telegraph "journalist" and others
who go to his site must just believe him without going on to check his
sources. They must be either lazy or stupid or will buy cheap sea side
land that only gets wet twice a day. If they did check the links
Homewood gives, it becomes very clear, very quickly, that Homewood also
is not the least bit credible.

Indeed. Most folks will not take the extra step that is needed these
days to verify what they see online.


Sigh. I used to think that full access to knowledge and verifiable
facts online would create in informed citizenry.

It depresses me if I think about it for too long. The Age of
Enlightenment might never have happened given what I see of all of
dumbing down that goes.

Boy was I wrong. All it has done is give a stage to fools, liars and
snake-oil purveyors.

Well there is some great stuff too but the problem is that too many
people don't seem capable of differentiating the crap from the
superlative (or at least the acceptable).

They could if they would bother acquiring the rudiments of critical thinking.

I have always thought that some degree of critical thinking was such a
basic life skill that everyone had it to some degree.

"will I cross the road now with that car coming towards me at speed or
will a wait a few seconds and cross when it has gone by?", "That person
in Nigeria who is asking me for money in that email wants my bank
details so what would they need them for and how would they use those
details?", "It's still frosty each morning, will I plant my tomatoes
outside?"

Admittedly none of those are a challenge but for issues such as, say
climate change or say, when the war in Iraq was mooted, then it often
seems that any degree of sensible thinking goes out the window.

But our whole capitalist-driven social structure (and I am a card-carrying capitalist but with a human heart!) is directed at creating an educational system [chuckle] whose aim is to turn out consumers of [often bad] products people don't really need, and [almost always bad] ideas that profit only Our Corporate Masters and their whore-lackeys in Congress.

I also approve in general terms of Capitalism, but not of the sort of
rampant greed and extreme consumption that some Capitalists think is OK.
We are very well off in our retirement and that is due to the
Capitalist system but we could certainly survive very happily on a lot
less than we have coming in.

With the greatest respect for NG members who try to engage climate change deniers, save your electrons. Deniers NEED this belief system! to give it up would damage their selves.

Incidentally, do people realize there still exists a Flat Earth Society?

LOL. You are probably right about both, but I suspect the Flat Earthers
probably belong to that group with their tongues firmly planted in their
cheeks.