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phorbin · 13-06-2015, 06:12 PM posted to rec.gardens.edible

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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:26:08 -0500, phorbin
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In article ,
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I assure you Google will maintain Groups only so long as they can
monetize it in some way. They have been derelict in their initial
promises to maintain old Deja as an archive and continue such a
function once they took it over

They blew the whole database to hell when they tried to import it.

Those of us who had email accounts on Deja (once Dejanews; a superior archive
that threaded posts as a newsreader does) received an embarrassed note from
google saying that they'd lost it all.

I had the impression at the time that google didn't want to give the data room
on their servers.

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They actually held it together decently the first few years and had a
semi-decent search capability.

As far as I know, that came after the loss of the Dejanews archive.

....It started as a 'port of Dejanews butwas never as functional. Dejanews was
structured around being a useful tool.

As an activist type I was exhorting google to do it right and they were giving
members of Deja/Dejanews updates on the transfer process.

'Gone' was the word I recall being used to describe the data.

Incompetents was the word I remember thinking.

I do not think anything was lost by accident, I truly believe they
wanted to shift Usenet, which actually had a few posters in those
days, to Google Groups, so made Usenet less and less usable. Google
had and has enough storage for anything it can make a profit from.

But what do I know? I was just an observer.

I could say the same about being an observer but I'll submit that observers who
understand nuanced language and corporate and individual behaviour can make
some pretty accurate guesses. -- It was certainly clear that something had gone
wrong before they owned up to it.

I'm not prepared to suggest that google destroyed an archive of a generation's
communication on purpose, but they destroyed an archive of a generation's
communication nonetheless...

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