On 10/22/2016 05:55 AM, George Shirley wrote:
We lived in Saudi Arabia for five years in the early eighties, in a two
story concrete town house. Had a small area outside the dining room
where we planted frangi pani and had our imported Thai Orchids hanging
under a shade. On the roof we had two foot by two foot by two foot high
wooden boxes. Some had plants that hung over the side of the roof and
had beautiful red flowers. The rest had vegetables growing in them.
Average daily temperature was around 125F but the air was very dry so we
didn't notice the heat that much.

We had an open house once and invited both the imported workers and the
locals to come through and see our flowers, etc. The Saudi's were amazed
and oohed and ahhed the whole time they were there. We left Saudi not
long after that and sold all the flowers, etc. Took in about $5K
American on the stuff, mostly bought by the locals.

If you take the time and do the work you can grow things on cement or
rocks. Stick with it T, eventually you will be happier.

George, preparing to do a rain dance in the backyard, we need the water.

Hi George,

Thank you! I am sticking with it! Never quit!

Every time I go out and garden, my blood sugar goes down to the 70's.
Office work is nuts on blood sugar.

I got a freeze full of bags of frozen (cooked) vegi's this years
to be proud of too.

And the tomatoes that didn't get killed in the freeze and
now going nuts. But, I doubt the will get a chance
to ripen before the next freeze.

And I am looking forward to planting my over winter shallots
and potato onions. Over winter gardening IS SO CHEATING!

I have four tiny little Goki berries facing the coming
winter in four of my ground pots. So far they are slowing
growing. They are so fragile looking when they are this small,
their branches are like human hairs. And the earwigs haven't
found them.

Thank you for the words of encouragement! There is a lot of
skill involved that I am learning.

My bother in law use to say: "Hand me the can; hand me
the can opener; I am a cook."

Hand me the seeds; hand me dirt; I am a farmer. Chuckle.
There is a lot to learn in both cooking and gardening/farming.
Since starting all this, I have gains a HUGE respect for
professional farmers.

-T